I can’t wait for people to start deleting these pigs in the street
“Stop resisting!”
God damn these bootlicking motherfukers
They’re the heel of the boot.
The lick the grime off of it afterwards. They enjoy it.
Abusers from top to bottom.
For a country that prides itself of being “brave”, there’s just too few of them fighting back.
Like, look at these ladies being forced out for protesting for a valid reason and everyone else just thinks its just another day in the USA.
And people just watched and did nothing as that officer committed felony assault.
While you would have… what?
What, you want people to get shot so she can get arrested anyway? Unless the whole crowd moves on them, they’re gonna shoot anyone who tries it
Imagine what they would have done if she was also black.
She should get a turn on piggy with a brick. It’s only fair.
2A. Use it.
Nah, Americans are too chicken to put their life on line for betterment of society.
They will gladly commit war crimes outside America though.
They’re too cynical, I think.
Yankees do not believe society can ever get better; they do believe they’ll get free healthcare if they do war crimes.
They’ll put their lives on the line for their own self interest because that’s the only thing they believe in.
Absolutely yes with the self interest, my own journey unfortunately had to begin from there, with the realization that a better world for everyone meant a better world for me. As capitalism continues to decline, it’s only going to get easier for us to appeal to people’s self interest. We just gotta build something we can point to. Doesn’t have to be huge, just any local structure we build to make life easier. It sucks that the level of consciousness here is generally so low, but it’s also just true that people are more receptive to something when they see tangible benefit from it.
Right, but that’s when the cynicism comes in: they do not believe a better world is possible, so they just want to get their bag.
It’s why a bunch of Trots became neocons. They decided revolution was impossible.
I think the cynicism, like any tendency, is both learned and dependent on circumstance to continually reinforce. Like what is cynicism if not a deep, fear-based belief that the person ia not capable of enacting meaningful change, and it’s better to take actions that will be rewarded and not punished under whatever power structure they currently exist in? That tendency towards compliance-dressed-as-cleverness can be worked with, we’re not gonna get them on board immediately but there will be a stage where even the cynical calculus will favor leaving a sinking ship.
I’m not sure they’ll try to leave the sinking ship until they’re already swimming, y’know? People who learned that resistance is futile over the course of US hegemony are not going to easily unlearn it. I think it’s happening among young people because they don’t have as many memories of the US being unstoppable. In fact, for people born after 9/11, the US has rarely won.
But for people who remember the US winning the Cold War, it’s going to take a lot more to make them unlearn their cynicism.
Irving Kristol was never a communist. He was never genuine. He always worked for the CIA.
Trots=neocons is not a real thing, never was. They just had a lot of infiltrators.
Irving Kristol isn’t the only one? Obviously not every single Trot became a neocon, but many did, and there’s a reason for it: cynicism. Further, a Trot working for the CIA itself is actually just an extension of the same cynicism. It’s all growing from the same learned helplessness and lack of revolutionary optimism: if revolution is impossible, all you can do is get your bag.
This is not exclusive to Trots, of course. Plenty of young people with revolutionary optimism “grow up” to become cynical older adults, and that’s not because they’re chicken. They simply become convinced there’s no hope.
My statement remains the same.
no, he’s right.
I used a different word that accurately describes them but that got me bannedI mean, “cynical” is the better word to use here.
They’re not cowardly, they’re totally willing to fight and die and do all sorts of crimes. They’re just hopeless and jaded and selfish.
So: cynical.
Show me how they’re " totally willing to fight".
We’re talking about ‘americans’ in general. They bend over like a twig.
Even if you mean their army which I think you might imply when you say “do all sorts of (war) crimes” then it’s wrong.
They also never ‘fight’.
What they call war is when they cowardly bomb defenseless brown people from a distance and let their local proxies/traitors do the dangerous stuff.So no, coward is accurate, they don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Only ridicule and loathing.Come to the USA and start saying this in public. See how unwilling to fight you people are.
Name calling on the internet doesn’t male you tough, kid.
LOL
not setting foot in that banana republic.
I’m European, I’ve been to many protests and do my part.
Like plenty now all over Europe that you can see on the news.
12 year olds have more balls than you all you pussies together.
IDC if you are butthurt about ‘name calling’.
It’s simply an accurate description.
They’re willing to join up with their military and die, and they’re constantly shooting each other too.
They’re obviously an incredibly violent and vile people, they just don’t fight for the right things because they’re cynical.
The government gives out socialism during and after military service. Free healthcare. Housing vouchers. Completely subsidized education. Career guidance.
There is a reason System of a Down asks “why do they always send the poor?” in BYOB. The poor are who join the military. They are enticed by the socialism the govt provides and whatever else the military recruiter sold them on.
join up with their military and die
die from a heart attack from being fat or a car accident?
Almost none get killed in combat, because THEY DON’T DO COMBAT.they are not cynical, they are cowards, the end
That guy will likely lose his job. It’s possible charges will be brought against him, although that’s less likely. That sheriff’s office will definitely be sued and they will likely have either a hefty judgement against them or a settlement. And that’s why this cop will likely lose his job. Not necessarily because they think what he did was wrong, but because he’s too much of a financial liability.
Edit: then again it is Utah, so we’ll see. But regardless she should sue. She should send the video to the civil rights lawyer too.
That guy will likely lose his job.
That guy will get promoted.
And there should be more consequences than simply losing his job.
Yeah. Getting a pension doesn’t seem fair. Also what about his coworkers who were like: yeah that’s just dale.
I’m not an ACAB guy, but that man needs a few years in prison to work out his issues.
The only thing that will happen in a few years is you becoming an ACAB guy.
I’m a law and order guy. The problem is that cops in capitalist societies only protect and serve the rich and their property.
All Capitalist Cops Are Bastards ACCAB
Then you haven’t learned enough.
What brought you to not being ACAB? I’m curious what you think about not just him but the other police next to him that chose to not restrain him after he assulted her.
I’ve been involved with enough investigations of Bad Cops ( and there are a a LOT of them) to recognize the many other cops (and there are sadly fewer of them) who are honorable and decent enough to help bring the uniformed criminals to justice – at huge risk to their own safety and wellbeing.
Speaking for myself here, but if the goal of saying “ACAB” is to point out how the police is complicit as an institution, then why the focus on cops as individuals? That ironically is a very liberal tendency when we are supposed to engage in class analysis.
It’s also way too edgy for a slogan that doesn’t even communicate what we mean. You’d almost think the slogan exists solely to alienate normies from our cause.
I think you’re missing a very critical element: All Cops
Each cop, as an individual, is part of the police force as an institution. The reason the institution remains is people keep joining it and becoming the very thing that perpetuates the existence of the institution.
People who joined the police force after everything thats been happening after George Floyd are decidedly class traitors.
Doesn’t matter how noble your intentions are. If you join the SS in hopes that you’ll change it from the within, it doesn’t mean you were one of the good ones. It just means you didnt really want to oppose the Nazis, just turn them to your will
This precisely proves my point. Why the focus on cops as individuals when the point is that the police is rotten as an institution?
The reason the institution remains is not because individuals keep joining it, but because the capitalist class needs a stable social order in which dissent is suppressed.
So again, the problem is capitalism as a system of oppression, not a set of individuals that happen to do stuff for the sake of it.
So you accept that the institutions remain, and that their existence keeps capitalism safe from a revolution.
If there was an actual revolution, the cops would do everything in their power to stop it, as they’ve shown time after time.
An institution that serves capitalist interests is terrible, but you can still hold the people who perpetuate that system accountable.
If you are a cop, and decide to protect capitalism against a revolution of the masses, you are a class traitor. That part is undebatable.
Cops, by the very nature of their role under capitalism, are class traitors. Even if they dont consciously make the choice, they are the enemies of the working class. Anything that creates a hurdle in the liberation of the working class is an enemy of the working class.
I think any slogan can and will be twisted no matter how edgy or verbose it is. Black Lives Matter got twisted. From the river to the sea got twisted. Turning ACAB into a 2 paragraph ordeal to try to prevent this also alienates the normies and also fails at being a slogan at that point. For what it actually seems to be trying to do: agitation- it does pretty well. We have more than enough evidence if a normie wants to argue with us about the phrase ACAB.
If police as a unit are defenders of this system, they individually are class traitors.
I’m not sure what you mean in the first part, are you saying that the “all cops” are referring to all the individuals and not the institution? I think in this context, I thought addressing ACAB being mentioned here was relevent because no cops shown broke the rule of being complicit.
I agree that ACAB is too edgy and doesn’t communicate what we mean, of the ones I’ve seen I’m partial to “fund communities not cops.”
It’s not that I disagree that “all cops” are complicit, but the focus on them being complicit does a poor job explaining what precisely makes the police rotten as an institution when institutions are more than the people that happen to be in them.
We must engage in class analysis when it comes to these matters. “ACAB” does the opposite.
Apparently insisting on class analysis gets you downvoted around here. Very disappointed and you can forget about me commenting any further. I hope some of you still recognize the reactionary nature of the “ACAB” phrase. It’s not class analysis and I stand by that.
See you around.
National Guardsmen who gunned down students in 1970 were never punished in any way.
He needs to spend the rest of his life there
Piggy tripped on the railing and took it out on her
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Americans do have guns and the cops are not invincible. Shout out to Elias Rodriguez and Luigi Mangione.
