Catholic Health Initiatives-Iowa, a faith-based health care provider, is arguing in a medical malpractice case that the loss of an unborn child does not equate to the death of a “person” for the purpose of calculating damage awards.
In Iowa, court-ordered awards for noneconomic losses stemming from medical malpractice are capped at $250,000, except in cases that entail the “loss or impairment of mind or body.”
Attorneys for the CHI and MercyOne hospital are arguing the cap on damages still applies in cases where the “loss” is that of a fetus or unborn child.
CHI’s status as a nonprofit, tax-exempt entity is based on its stated mission of providing health services “in the spirit of the gospel.” The ethics guidelines it approved in 2018 state that the corporation is committed to “respect the sacredness of every human life from the moment of conception until death.”
I say, let them rip what they sowed.
“Reap”, as in the grim reaper. You “reap” what you sow
No!, I say Rip, not reap.
There is zero point in ever listening to what a conservative is saying. It changes based on whatever they think is beneficial to them in that exact moment. They’re like the demons from Frieren.
but will they make it right in the end by giving her a new fetus (from someone who died in a fire).
Abortion? It’s a person, you murderers!
We fucked up? Well it’s a fetus, not a person!
Well, the problem is that “Faith Based Institutions” are exposed to any amount of liability for anything at all. Obviously, these people were infallible and it was the sinful patients who were at fault.
Catholic Health Initiatives-Iowa, a faith-based health care provider
A what?
CHI is an absolute nightmare to deal with. They will send you to collections almost immediately, they can’t answer any questions about your bills, and seem to routinely fuck them up so bad I’ve had lawyers send them letters twice to get problems resolved.
Getting the same service from the university medical system in my area suddenly fixed all of the billing issues. Where I was paying out the ass after insurance, suddenly the patient responsibility dropped to damn near 0.
The ‘Catholic’ part is just a veneer. It’s a for profit medical institution that’s uses religious conviction as another avenue for profit.
It’s who provides medicine in America. Why do you think our media depicts healers as clerics and priests.
Fr. John gives a hell of a sermon alongside his trademark appendectomy
It is a left over system where hospitals were basically run by nuns and churches. Originally done in good faith as there wasn’t any other option, so nuns would double as nurses, staff, etc. That is basically how Mayo clinic started. It is outdated now but many of those hospitals combined to form CHI, Dignity… Some are huge systems.
Those guys will say almost anything for their weekly free money.
CURIOUS
“Faith-based health care provider” is one of the saddest euphemisms I’ve heard in a while.
Rules for thee and not for me
I’ve encountered many situations of priests having girlfriends, boyfriends and even whole ass families on the side and the parishioners were…okay with it? Like, being celibate is one of the basic prerequisites for your job and you are violating it so casually? No wonder the Catholic church is hemorraging members, this type of in-your-face hipocrisy has become commonplace.
The reason behind priests not being allowed to marry originally had nothing to do with their faith though. It’s because Catholic priests were bequeathing church assets to their children when they died. The church just put a thin veneer of dogma on top of the reasoning when they used the dictate of no marriage to stop the theft.
That is an even more finicky situation. Roman Catholic priests cannot marry, but Eastern Catholic priests can, and there are exemptions that can be made for Roman Catholic converts. On top of that, you may have seen a “high church” protestant group (looks like a Catholic Church) like Anglicans who generally can marry or date.
Yeah an Anglican priest can be indistinguishable from a catholic one except for the fact that she and her wife have kids.
There’s also the part about being backward, hateful and wrong. I don’t even have to mention that one other thing but you know exactly what it is.
I mean they cover up child rape . Totally on brand for them and most religious organizations
Now, now, the Laws of Hammurabi clearly state what to do here…
22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
So you will note that punishment is only given out as the woman is harmed, as this is a life. Miscarriage shmishcarriage, it’s not a life yet so no harm done, no punishment given.
It’s an open and shut case, Your Honour. The husband can demand all he wants but no life was harmed here, no eyes, no teeth, the $250,000 cap applies as “the court allows”.
Numbers 11.
Abortion is only wrong when it’s a woman’s choice.
They claim a viable delivery was possible. How far along was it?
According to the article, she first was admitted at 34 weeks.
Why do y’all have a problem with this? Y’all think it’s just a clump of cells. A parasite.
Hot damn, my guy. You remember all those anti-abortion laws where the basic reasoning is that “abortion is murder”? The rest of us do, and we insist that the Catholic church make consistent legal arguments. Many of us also think those fuckheads also have shitty views in general.
This is some primo dumbassery right here. Delicious, and stereotypically conservative: obliquely combative, willfully ignorant, or bless-your-heart special. Maybe even a nice mashup of the three…
We’re pointing out the hypocrisy. Did you really not understand that? It’s ridiculously obvious. Or are you just being a contrarian?
It’s hypocrisy in the name of saving a buck. Should we not want intellectual consistency from religious affiliates that seek to dictate the terms of our laws and our lives?
No! Everything is black and white and about which team I said I was on!
Maybe get out of the healthcare industry if you’re not willing to provide care for patients’ health.
Well, that almost feels like hypocrisy, doesn’t it?
