I love the memes that pour out of [hostile community 1] and [hostile community 2], but inevitably when I participate in the comments under their posts, I’m bombarded with accusations of “trolling,” “imperialist apologia,” “racism,” etc. because I disagree with some aspects of the the hyper-auth-left.

I just want a community that makes me laugh “hehe, that’s a good point about that problem with the US” that isn’t overrun with people doing mental gymnastics to paint anything I say as the worst thing anyone’s ever said in the history of the internet and recreationally banning me for it.

Does such a place exist on the Fediverse (yet)?

  • ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com
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    5 days ago

    It’s not purely instance based, but there are more auth-left/tankie centric instances that can cut down a big chunk of the noise

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      5 days ago

      I just resist the idea of clipping away instances that are Civil But Disagree with me.

      If they’re actively hostile just to troll us, then they should be defederated.

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        4 days ago

        The problem with .ml is the primary software devs are the ones that run it, so defederating them leaves instances without the official support coms.

        I would 't say they, or the other auth-left instances exist just to troll, many seem like honest believers in their statements, but they could certainly be considered hostile to any sort of support for western culture.

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          4 days ago

          I’ve had great help from this community and https://lemmy.world/c/support. I’d never even heard of or found the “official” one, nor do I care to find it now that I know it exists and is a primary reason we don’t defederate.

          It’s a shame being hostile to anything Western is considered pleasant, tolerant, and enlightened on Lemmy, while anything that criticizes any person in the East is considered automatically racist.

          It’s transparently hypocritical and the far right uses it as a recruiting tool, i.e. “They’re openly racist, why can’t we be?”

          Such a colossally disappointing stance that hamstrings what would otherwise be a global force for good. Can’t the world have one political community that isn’t run by morons?

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            4 days ago

            When I say support it’s more in the sense of software patches and the like rather than account support, but I can’t say that’s the only reason .world stays, I’m not even part of the instance, just that it makes things less straight forward than other instances.

            The fediverse at large tends to be more progressive leaning, some just take it to a place where principals that might be generally leftist are made compulsary and any deviation is an offense.

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              4 days ago

              I totally get that as a philosophy, but the people (or for all I know, bots) that I’ve been running into lately aren’t that.

              As an example, they’ve done mental gymnastics to build the following logic:

              • Russia opposes the US (factual)

              • The US is imperialist (factual)

              • Therefore anything Russia ever does cannot be imperialism, but must be anti-imperialism (???)

              • Therefore anyone who criticizes anything Russia ever does must be anti-anti-imperialist, ergo imperialist (???)

              It’s people LARPing wanting freedom from tyranny who actually just want despotism with a different flavor on the boot.