I love the memes that pour out of [hostile community 1] and [hostile community 2], but inevitably when I participate in the comments under their posts, I’m bombarded with accusations of “trolling,” “imperialist apologia,” “racism,” etc. because I disagree with some aspects of the the hyper-auth-left.

I just want a community that makes me laugh “hehe, that’s a good point about that problem with the US” that isn’t overrun with people doing mental gymnastics to paint anything I say as the worst thing anyone’s ever said in the history of the internet and recreationally banning me for it.

Does such a place exist on the Fediverse (yet)?

    • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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      4 days ago

      Blocking individual hyper-auth-left people is laborious, and blocking entire instances or communities because I disagree with some/many of their people just builds an echo chamber around me.

      I like to listen to what they have to say. Some of it is right - including thoughts I’d never have had without their input. Some of it is wrong, and I confront them about it. Most of the time, they lose their minds and their local instance admins or community moderators look the other way. It’s very frustrating.

      • Malica@lemmy.zip
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        4 days ago

        I do too, I haven’t blocked them yet, but sometimes I comment in their space without looking and they pounce on me like hyaenas. They’re so aggressive, I could see it ruining someone’s day.

        • HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
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          4 days ago

          I’m fine with them passionately disagreeing with me, but it does get irritating when they’re allowed to make up all sorts of nonsense about me and the admin->moderator->voter chain applauds it.

          When I ask them to explain their accusations, typically I get the classic, “I’m under no obligation to educate you or prove why you’re a piece of shit” or “it’s obvious and you’re trolling by even asking.”

          This is rapidly turning into a ban-rant, but oh well:

          From memory, there was a thread circle-jerking about how liberals hate soviet bloc housing. I disagreed, saying it’s actually one of the things liberals widely appreciate about the USSR.

          Apparently that point and/or defending it is “imperialist apologia” and “trolling.” Much more recently, another of them in a separate thread dug into my modlog and decided to announce that I’m a “fascist apologist,” I assume because they 1:1’ed “imperialist” and “fascist,” which admittedly do have a lot of overlap but are not 1:1.

          Regardless, I have never and will never defend imperialism or fascism. Ironically, I was also recently banned for saying that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is much closer to imperialism, not automatically anti-imperialism (by implied virtue of opposition to the US’ interests). So the irony there is that they’re allowed to defend imperialism, but I’m labeled an imperialist apologist for saying one of the things the USSR did was good and a lot of liberals agree?

          I hope - for the world’s sanity’s sake - that they know how ridiculous that is and are just trolling me. Another possibility is they’ve built this caricature of a Westerner so ironclad in their minds that if a Westerner shows up and doesn’t match it, they must be lying to get under their skin? Or… and hear me out… OR… they’re a gaggle of morons.

          • Malica@lemmy.zip
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            4 days ago

            They tore my head off in the same thread because I explained my issues with the block apartment I lived in at the time. Anything that contradicts whatever point they’re trying to make is to be bullied and blocked.