A lot of republicans are going to vote “not Trump” because of the damage Trump is doing now. Those votes will be easier to earn than progressive votes.
When leftists don’t show up to vote, the government shifts right.
Progressives have an extremely high turnout rate, what a bunch of bullshit. You just like blaming us because then you don’t have to face the fact that the DNC leaders that you liars enable are fucking morons.
Every time you lose it’s magically the progressives’ fault. And you fall for it every single time. You can’t even turn out your own so-called “moderate” base, but you’ll never try to find out why. So much easier to play politics instead.
There’s a difference between disagreement and you trying to start a slapfight, which is what you tried.
I mean, that’s one way to say I was right about every last thing I said and that you have no rebuttal. You gonna tell the mods that you think are your pets to ban me because I was right?
Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024 by chasing Republicans who they thought would vote, “not Trump.” They won in 2020 by offering a progressive economic vision. There is no evidence to support the idea that Republican voters will be easier to earn.
“C’mon guys, just a little further to the right and we’ll start winning! Ignore the last four times we lost by doing this and remember the one time it worked in 1992!”
And only one candidate (Clinton) won by going to the right. Obama ran as a progressive (and governed as a centrist-technocrat) while Biden ran on a progressive platform (which he couldn’t get passed because of Manchin and Sinema).
I will give him credit for trying fairly hard to get his agenda through, especially in the first 2 years. He kept trying to find ways to get student loans forgiven without Congress, even when the courts repeatedly blocked him, and he did try to get some parts of Build Back Better that got cut in 2021 into the Inflation Reduction Act. He certainly tried harder than Obama to deliver on his platform.
He then abandoned the populous economic platform in 2024 and tried to pretend that letting most of his agenda get blocked by his own party was a huge accomplishment. He also tried to get to Trump’s right on immigration, materially supported a genocide, and refused to step down despite clear cognitive issues, so all-in-all, 2024 was a bad campaign.
He then abandoned the populous economic platform in 2024 and tried to pretend that letting most of his agenda get blocked by his own party was a huge accomplishment. He also tried to get to Trump’s right on immigration, materially supported a genocide, and refused to step down despite clear cognitive issues, so all-in-all, 2024 was a bad campaign.
Not as far as centrists are concerned. They got everything they wanted. They got their genocide. They got to betray immigrants and trans people, they got to have a presidential election without a primary, they’re still getting their genocide, they’re still getting republican immigration policy, and they’re still getting anti-trans hate. Plus, they get to blame the left they spent the entire campaign alienating and saying they didn’t need.
I once read a tweet that was something to the effect of, “The number of Democrats needed to pass meaningful legislation is always (N-1), where N=The Current Number of Democrats in Congress.” I think about that a lot.
He ran on a public healthcare option, bailing out homeowners, regulating banks, closing Gitmo, ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Saying he appealed to centrists is revisionist nonsense.
Again, nonsense. He ran in 2008 in things like direct homeowner bailing outs, then passed things like HAMP, which tried (and failed) to inventivize lenders to refinance bad loans. Even in 2012, when he made less bold and specific promises, he made income inequality the center of his campaign. He always ran as progressive, not a centrist.
Why would a leftist vote for Harris or Biden? They are corporate Democrats who support MAGA and genocide. Leftists should vote for leftists, not Blue MAGA.
Because it is in their best interest to vote for them to prevent Trump from getting elected. Nobody votes for leftists. That’s why they never win elections.
Not enough leftists voted for Harris.
A lot of republicans are going to vote “not Trump” because of the damage Trump is doing now. Those votes will be easier to earn than progressive votes.
When leftists don’t show up to vote, the government shifts right.
And the leftists never show up. You’d be an absolute fool to rely on them.
Progressives have an extremely high turnout rate, what a bunch of bullshit. You just like blaming us because then you don’t have to face the fact that the DNC leaders that you liars enable are fucking morons.
Every time you lose it’s magically the progressives’ fault. And you fall for it every single time. You can’t even turn out your own so-called “moderate” base, but you’ll never try to find out why. So much easier to play politics instead.
Every time the Dems even look left, they lose. Every single time. Then the next Dem goes to the center and wins. Every single time.
If they dont show up and you dont need their votes, why did Harris lose.
If the leftists can’t show up for their own friggin human rights, they either don’t exist or will literally never ever show up.
republicans didn’t show up to vote for you either. But you want to kiss their asses even harder. I’m starting to think you just like the taste.
Reported for trying to start a slapfight snd moving on.
You don’t have to announce what you do every time you disagree with someone.
There’s a difference between disagreement and you trying to start a slapfight, which is what you tried. Anyway ciao before you continue.
I mean, that’s one way to say I was right about every last thing I said and that you have no rebuttal. You gonna tell the mods that you think are your pets to ban me because I was right?
Democrats lost in 2016 and 2024 by chasing Republicans who they thought would vote, “not Trump.” They won in 2020 by offering a progressive economic vision. There is no evidence to support the idea that Republican voters will be easier to earn.
Trust me guys, this time the Republicans will finally be done with Trump!
“C’mon guys, just a little further to the right and we’ll start winning! Ignore the last four times we lost by doing this and remember the one time it worked in 1992!”
Democrats won the majority of elections since the 90s.
And only one candidate (Clinton) won by going to the right. Obama ran as a progressive (and governed as a centrist-technocrat) while Biden ran on a progressive platform (which he couldn’t get passed because of Manchin and Sinema).
Well, and because it was a pack of lies from the start.
I will give him credit for trying fairly hard to get his agenda through, especially in the first 2 years. He kept trying to find ways to get student loans forgiven without Congress, even when the courts repeatedly blocked him, and he did try to get some parts of Build Back Better that got cut in 2021 into the Inflation Reduction Act. He certainly tried harder than Obama to deliver on his platform.
He then abandoned the populous economic platform in 2024 and tried to pretend that letting most of his agenda get blocked by his own party was a huge accomplishment. He also tried to get to Trump’s right on immigration, materially supported a genocide, and refused to step down despite clear cognitive issues, so all-in-all, 2024 was a bad campaign.
Not as far as centrists are concerned. They got everything they wanted. They got their genocide. They got to betray immigrants and trans people, they got to have a presidential election without a primary, they’re still getting their genocide, they’re still getting republican immigration policy, and they’re still getting anti-trans hate. Plus, they get to blame the left they spent the entire campaign alienating and saying they didn’t need.
and 10 other DINOS, machin and sinema were just the lightning rod for critcisim, for the ones that are afraid of getting primaried.
I once read a tweet that was something to the effect of, “The number of Democrats needed to pass meaningful legislation is always (N-1), where N=The Current Number of Democrats in Congress.” I think about that a lot.
Obama won because he appealed to centrists
Obama won by running to Clinton’s left.
This is still centrists which is why he won.
centrists have a 27% approval rating for a reason.
Which is better than progressives approval rating for a reason.
He ran on a public healthcare option, bailing out homeowners, regulating banks, closing Gitmo, ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Saying he appealed to centrists is revisionist nonsense.
Those are liberal policies not leftist. Saying Obama was a leftist is revisionist nonsense.
This is what got him elected and re-elected. Appealing to centrists
Again, nonsense. He ran in 2008 in things like direct homeowner bailing outs, then passed things like HAMP, which tried (and failed) to inventivize lenders to refinance bad loans. Even in 2012, when he made less bold and specific promises, he made income inequality the center of his campaign. He always ran as progressive, not a centrist.
Those are centrists things
Why would a leftist vote for Harris or Biden? They are corporate Democrats who support MAGA and genocide. Leftists should vote for leftists, not Blue MAGA.
Because it is in their best interest to vote for them to prevent Trump from getting elected. Nobody votes for leftists. That’s why they never win elections.