I saw David Hogg on one of the political shows this morning, and watched him defend himself from attacks by both Democrat (and ex-DNC chair) Donna Brazile and Republican Rinse & Repeat, and he came out on top. He wasn’t taking any shit from Rep traitors or weak-ass Dem weenies.
If they thought they were going to humiliate or intimidate him, they figured wrong. He’s not afraid of these old losers from either party. This guy survived a school massacre, and immediately started standing up for governmental change, all while he was a teenager. He’s got more courage than everyone on that stage combined.
He gained a LOT of supporters with that appearance. He needs to be on a lot more shows, and he should be touring with AOC and Bernie.
I don’t care. It’s time for the oldsters to go out to pasture, and let new blood flow through the party. The oldsters value smugness over winning, and all its done is allow the Nazis to rise again.
Replacing an “oldster” with a younger version of the same “oldster” is not an improvement. We’ll win one election cycle with that approach, and then it’s back to the Nazis.
We need actual progressives in office, not people who say “Yeah, that progressive policy would be nice, and you should vote for us because we agree that you think it’s nice, but we’re not going to actually do it.”
I’m no big fan of Pelosi, but she was effective in blunting much of HitlerPig’s agenda in his first term, and she was a good partner with Obama. She did a better job than Jeffries is doing, and isn’t nearly as much to blame for Democratic ineffectiveness as that insipid scumbag Chuck Schumer. Its long past time for that backstabbing bitch to STFU & GTFO.
And one cautiously positive statement about an elder statesperson could easily be just a respectful nod, as would be expected from the vice-chair of the party. That’s called politics.
The reason that we have been taken over by Nazis is because Democrats are so willing to entirely reject those who could help the most, based on one phrase that they dont like. People aren’t perfect, and our candidates don’t have to be perfect. They just have to be better than Nazis. That should be easy, but Dems serm to prefer full-blown Nazis over a Dem candidate that is 90% of what they want. It makes no sense at all.
So you have exactly the same attitude and strategy as pelosi, you make excuses for her failures and the greater failures of the DNC, but we’re supposed to believe that you’re somehow different and that you’re actually winning against the Nazis?
How fucking stupid do you think we are? Trump beat you DNC lovers TWICE. You are garbage and we’re done with your weak, lying, fascist-enabling bullshit. If you want to chase fascists over progressives then go join the GOP. We’re done with being the scapegoats for YOUR failures.
WTF are you talking about? You don’t know shit about me. I’m not a “DNC lover,” I’m not even a Democrat, I’m a lifelong Unafilliated Independent since 1977. I had a 12 year Reddit account, with over 900K karma, and was permabanned in the February bloodbath because of my activist anti-MAGA/Republican views, although I’ve been highly critical of Democrats, too. The MAGA Nazis have my account posts, and there is no doubt I’m on a list for future trouble, so I’m not just a keyboard warrior, I’ve got skin in the game. I fully expect to be grabbed after they declare Martial Law next summer.
I call’em as I see’em, and I’ve been screaming about the weakness of Democrats for decades. I was hollering for Pelosi to move aside for years, and give younger players a chance. Unfortunately, she was succeeded by Jeffries, who is nearly as weak, ineffective, and uninspiring as Schumer.
I’ve liked Hogg for years, since he emerged as a strong voice in the wake of the Parkland Massacre, and consider him the exact opposite of Jeffries/ Schumer - strong, fearless, and inspiring. I don’t exactly know why he’s spending his time at the DNC and not running for Congress, but i suspect he is intending to grab the reins, and make major policy changes within the entire Democratic party, something that is desperately needed. Perhaps after that, he’ll run for office, he’s still incredibly young.
His strategy to spend $20 million to primary weak, ineffective Dems is an excellent one. The same threat on the Republican side keeps them in line and supporting the evil MAGA agenda, and HitlerPig employs that threat routinely. Clearly, a primary threat is one that resonates strongly with Reps, and it will resonate with Dems, too. It already is, judging by their panicked reaction.
So I’m going to support Hogg, even if he made a respectful nod to Pelosi. I’m not going to try to sabotage the best inside man the Progressives have because of an innocuous phrase he once uttered about an elder statesman.
Bullshit like that sort of silly controversy over nothing, while the Reps remained focused on winning, is why the MAGA Nazis are in power. They kept their eye on the 1st Rule of Politics - Get Elected - while the Dems distracted themselves with all manner of minor bullshit. The Reps recognize that Dems are easily distracted, so they toss all sorts of chum in the water, knowing Dems will take at least some of the bait. That’s why the strongest reputation that Dems have is their ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I’ve seen them do it multiple times, in this century alone.
Hogg is dedicated to injecting strength into the Democratic Party, something NOBODY else is talking about, and he has positioned himself in the party structure to achieve that, or at least attempt to. Now he needs the support of Democratic voters to give power to his demands, and force those changes. I would much rather have fearless young Progressive warriors like AOC, Crockett, Frost, et al, then the old school Tolkien dragons sleeping on their hoard of treasure, and Hogg is the ONLY one forging a path in that direction.
I love how weirdos on reddit and Lemmy act like gun control is an unpopular stance, when poll after poll shows that’s completely false. Whether you like it or not, most Americans in swing states want stronger gun control laws.
8 states didn’t adopt liberal concealed carry licensing policies since the early 00s. 42 states did.
Outside of those 8 states, 30 million people obtained licenses. The overwhelming majority in populous swing states. Their children grew up with armed parents. Their children are now of voting age.
The polls you’re talking about oversample the 8 blue states that didn’t adopt those policies. The DNC has utterly failed to recognize that the nation’s attitude on guns has shifted drastically over the past 25 years, especially in the swing states.
Which is exactly why states like Ohio and Florida have shifted from swing states to reliably red.
Your conclusion doesn’t make much sense, does it? You’re saying that voters in Ohio and Florida are single issue voters, and that one issue is guns? I just don’t believe it. But if you have some data to support your claim, by all means.
I saw David Hogg on one of the political shows this morning, and watched him defend himself from attacks by both Democrat (and ex-DNC chair) Donna Brazile and Republican Rinse & Repeat, and he came out on top. He wasn’t taking any shit from Rep traitors or weak-ass Dem weenies.
If they thought they were going to humiliate or intimidate him, they figured wrong. He’s not afraid of these old losers from either party. This guy survived a school massacre, and immediately started standing up for governmental change, all while he was a teenager. He’s got more courage than everyone on that stage combined.
He gained a LOT of supporters with that appearance. He needs to be on a lot more shows, and he should be touring with AOC and Bernie.
Hogg idolizes Pelosi and Clinton. He’s not progressive. He’s trying to turn an old corporatist party into a young corporatist party.
I don’t care. It’s time for the oldsters to go out to pasture, and let new blood flow through the party. The oldsters value smugness over winning, and all its done is allow the Nazis to rise again.
Replacing an “oldster” with a younger version of the same “oldster” is not an improvement. We’ll win one election cycle with that approach, and then it’s back to the Nazis.
We need actual progressives in office, not people who say “Yeah, that progressive policy would be nice, and you should vote for us because we agree that you think it’s nice, but we’re not going to actually do it.”
It is a huge improvement over entrenched fixtures who have been bought & paid for for decades.
And who says he isn’t progressive? I haven’t seen anything to indicate that he’s a corporatist neo-lib that currently controls the party.
Entrenching a new permanent fixture is not an improvement.
He calls Nancy Pelosi a “fighter who is delivering”, rather than an architect of Democratic failures.
We don’t need a bunch of Nancy Juniors drawing on the walls of the Capitol.
I’m no big fan of Pelosi, but she was effective in blunting much of HitlerPig’s agenda in his first term, and she was a good partner with Obama. She did a better job than Jeffries is doing, and isn’t nearly as much to blame for Democratic ineffectiveness as that insipid scumbag Chuck Schumer. Its long past time for that backstabbing bitch to STFU & GTFO.
And one cautiously positive statement about an elder statesperson could easily be just a respectful nod, as would be expected from the vice-chair of the party. That’s called politics.
The reason that we have been taken over by Nazis is because Democrats are so willing to entirely reject those who could help the most, based on one phrase that they dont like. People aren’t perfect, and our candidates don’t have to be perfect. They just have to be better than Nazis. That should be easy, but Dems serm to prefer full-blown Nazis over a Dem candidate that is 90% of what they want. It makes no sense at all.
So you have exactly the same attitude and strategy as pelosi, you make excuses for her failures and the greater failures of the DNC, but we’re supposed to believe that you’re somehow different and that you’re actually winning against the Nazis?
How fucking stupid do you think we are? Trump beat you DNC lovers TWICE. You are garbage and we’re done with your weak, lying, fascist-enabling bullshit. If you want to chase fascists over progressives then go join the GOP. We’re done with being the scapegoats for YOUR failures.
WTF are you talking about? You don’t know shit about me. I’m not a “DNC lover,” I’m not even a Democrat, I’m a lifelong Unafilliated Independent since 1977. I had a 12 year Reddit account, with over 900K karma, and was permabanned in the February bloodbath because of my activist anti-MAGA/Republican views, although I’ve been highly critical of Democrats, too. The MAGA Nazis have my account posts, and there is no doubt I’m on a list for future trouble, so I’m not just a keyboard warrior, I’ve got skin in the game. I fully expect to be grabbed after they declare Martial Law next summer.
I call’em as I see’em, and I’ve been screaming about the weakness of Democrats for decades. I was hollering for Pelosi to move aside for years, and give younger players a chance. Unfortunately, she was succeeded by Jeffries, who is nearly as weak, ineffective, and uninspiring as Schumer.
I’ve liked Hogg for years, since he emerged as a strong voice in the wake of the Parkland Massacre, and consider him the exact opposite of Jeffries/ Schumer - strong, fearless, and inspiring. I don’t exactly know why he’s spending his time at the DNC and not running for Congress, but i suspect he is intending to grab the reins, and make major policy changes within the entire Democratic party, something that is desperately needed. Perhaps after that, he’ll run for office, he’s still incredibly young.
His strategy to spend $20 million to primary weak, ineffective Dems is an excellent one. The same threat on the Republican side keeps them in line and supporting the evil MAGA agenda, and HitlerPig employs that threat routinely. Clearly, a primary threat is one that resonates strongly with Reps, and it will resonate with Dems, too. It already is, judging by their panicked reaction.
So I’m going to support Hogg, even if he made a respectful nod to Pelosi. I’m not going to try to sabotage the best inside man the Progressives have because of an innocuous phrase he once uttered about an elder statesman.
Bullshit like that sort of silly controversy over nothing, while the Reps remained focused on winning, is why the MAGA Nazis are in power. They kept their eye on the 1st Rule of Politics - Get Elected - while the Dems distracted themselves with all manner of minor bullshit. The Reps recognize that Dems are easily distracted, so they toss all sorts of chum in the water, knowing Dems will take at least some of the bait. That’s why the strongest reputation that Dems have is their ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I’ve seen them do it multiple times, in this century alone.
Hogg is dedicated to injecting strength into the Democratic Party, something NOBODY else is talking about, and he has positioned himself in the party structure to achieve that, or at least attempt to. Now he needs the support of Democratic voters to give power to his demands, and force those changes. I would much rather have fearless young Progressive warriors like AOC, Crockett, Frost, et al, then the old school Tolkien dragons sleeping on their hoard of treasure, and Hogg is the ONLY one forging a path in that direction.
he will have to drop his gun control stances if he wants any chance of winning.
No he won’t.
I love how weirdos on reddit and Lemmy act like gun control is an unpopular stance, when poll after poll shows that’s completely false. Whether you like it or not, most Americans in swing states want stronger gun control laws.
8 states didn’t adopt liberal concealed carry licensing policies since the early 00s. 42 states did.
Outside of those 8 states, 30 million people obtained licenses. The overwhelming majority in populous swing states. Their children grew up with armed parents. Their children are now of voting age.
The polls you’re talking about oversample the 8 blue states that didn’t adopt those policies. The DNC has utterly failed to recognize that the nation’s attitude on guns has shifted drastically over the past 25 years, especially in the swing states.
Which is exactly why states like Ohio and Florida have shifted from swing states to reliably red.
Your conclusion doesn’t make much sense, does it? You’re saying that voters in Ohio and Florida are single issue voters, and that one issue is guns? I just don’t believe it. But if you have some data to support your claim, by all means.
Ohio is reliably red because of stupid, easily influenced racists.
Source: Experience. I have co-workers who legitimately believe people were eating cats and dogs.
There’s no reason for guns to be treated with less scrutiny than cars.
Sanders? Too old now that biden is no longer in office.
AOC? Women suddenly can’t win because she’s seizing the moment.
Hogg? Not pro-school shooting enough.
There is always some excuse for why we can’t move to the left.
Uh, no? He’s already been elected to vice chair. In other words, means he won, dumbass.
Lol. https://news.gallup.com/poll/653489/majorities-back-stricter-gun-laws-assault-weapons-ban.aspx