Trump Nazis aren’t really sentient beings they think what they’re told to think by the 24/7 propaganda machine
It’s only checkmate if you think Trump supporters will care. Trump will turn down the deal, shit his pants, and then declare it the best day ever. His supporters will try to make it a holiday, because their support is not based on any principles or ideology.
Pretty simple.
He rejects it. Convinces his base that Ukraine doesn’t have the money
That would normally be enough, but this is Trump.
After conning his base into believing Ukraine doesn’t have the money Trump will also say that Zelenskyy tried to scam the US
After which Rhinemetall makes 50 billion?
Or the French, who apparently make the missile defence system most comparable to Patriot (which is generally considered to be the gold standard)
Where did he suddenly get all that money from is what I’d like to know.
They have an emergency stock of Royal Fabergé eggs.
Countries can take out loans to pay for things. Probably not good for their economy, but desperate times.
$50 billion is literally more than a quarter of their entire GDP (which means it could be as much as or at least close to their entire tax revenue for the year). Sure, banks routinely lend people up to 5-10 times their annual income, but that’s to buy a house, which is likely to increase in value if maintained properly, and which they get to repossess if they fail to make payments.
Meanwhile, military equipment to be used in an active war is likely to see at least major wear and tear, and at high risk of getting completely destroyed in the process, and there is no guarantee whatsoever that it’ll help them win the war. And even if they win, they haven’t really won anything because they’re just defending already existing territory, and they’re sacrificing the lives of millions of men in the process, which will then be lacking in their workforce, potentially leading to economic stagnation for decades. And for that reason, I’m out.
Ukraine is about to be paying of it’s debts to the west (for rebuilding, weapons and “business opportunities”) until the entire political system is crumbling to dust, anyway. What’s 50bn more or less anyway?
Source: trust me, bro.
You don’t think that Europe helps out Ukraine out of the goodness of their hearts, right?
Cash upfront. Delivery after full payment.
Lol, I would never trust Trump with Cash Upfront. He’s the guy who is famous for not paying his bills
I doubt the offer is sincere. That they have cash. It might make a “mineral deal” (actually a ports and power that is already developed deal) to be paid in US weapons instead of a free gift to US. Trump will take the free gift instead, tyvm. Would be embarassing for Europe to pay.
*Me waiting for updates on the new development IRL*
I know exactly what he’ll do
Checkmate trump 😏
Old. Dated April 9.
He already wiggled out of this one. He said Ukraine shouldn’t start a war it can’t win and expect to buy missiles to make up for it. His base accepted this explanation despite it making no sense, his opposition was mad but couldn’t stop this decision and so everyone just moved on once it happened.
You’d think so, but he’ll refuse and easily convince his cult that it’s the correct move or they’ll just come up with excuses for him.
Logic doesn’t factor into any of this.
Of course not. But him turning down money is surely going to get stuck in his dementia loop.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: they don’t support Trump because they agree with him, they agree with him because he’s Trump. It doesn’t matter if he flip flops on topics every couple of weeks, it doesn’t matter if he directly screws over his own followers, it doesn’t matter if he spits in the face of all things America has ever claimed to stand for; if Trump says or does something, his followers will support it. Every time.
Trunp doesn’t have to deal with a flaw in reasoning if he never acknowledges the flaw.
“I’ve never heard of that” and the media let’s him get away with it.
“we want peace, not more fighting and war”
I know that logic and consistency don’t belong in the same sentence as “trump”, but if they did, even that argument can be dismantled.
If spending money on the military enables fighting and war, then what would be trump’s supporting argument for increasing the US Defense budget at the cost of over $800 Billion?
just playing devils advocate but some sort of “America first” thing.
like “we can’t be getting involved in everyone else’s disputes, we need to focus our resources on making our own nation stronger with better defense”
cue tesla space lasers, etc.
“we can’t be getting involved in everyone else’s disputes, we need to focus our resources on making our own nation stronger with better defense”
So, Mr trump, are you going to block sale of US weapon systems to other nations too to stay consistent with your messaging? Have you consulted your Military Industrial Complex handlers from Lockheed, Raytheon, and others yet?
“What a terrible person you are, BANNED!”
Seriously great questions though, I wish our journalists would step up like this.
something about Zelensky being a dictator so it’s different, then how “Biden aligned himself with these dictators but we won’t”. then they push they election again. they own an opposition candidate. next cycle he’ll lift the ban of french fries after “the left banned them”, even though they never were.
You don’t have to go that deep and convoluted.
You can’t have peace when you have an invading army in your country.
To have peace the invading army needs to want peace. They don’t.
He can spin anything he wants to the people voting for him, because he has a whole media apparatus to influence them. But he also has to deal with people outside of his cult in the real world. Maybe those people don’t have much influence in what happens inside of the US, but ‘tricks’ like force him to show his cards to the rest of the world. Also history is written by the victor and I think that at the end of the
daycentury that isn’t gonna be trump.
“We pay the money accordingly. If you want it in a fund or if you want us to pay you directly, it doesn’t matter to us,” Zelenskyy said in a meeting with journalists.
Cash or card?
Do you accept Russian war bonds?
Knowing trump, he’ll take the mi ey and then just refuse to deliver the weapons
I can see it in my head now
Trump: “I mean you know Ukraine begged and begged for trump to help them out, they said only trump can make this right, so now I’ve secured a deal for them to pay us $50 Billion, something that only trump can do, they said they want nothing in return but to pay the debts off to America”
