12 year old account got permabanned for telling a Nazi off. But even before this happened I’ve noticed how much reddit has dropped off the last few years compared to when I discovered it.

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    Welcome to the reality! I saw reddit changing in a bad way 2 years ago and came to lemmy.

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      It started getting shitty but pretty much when they killed 3rd party apps it just went in freefall.

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    I’m just there for the porn, these days. Any sort of meaningful interaction with people happens elsewhere.

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      Uh… no offense, but why go to Reddit for porn when there’s PornHub, Xvideos, and Jizzle?

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    I mean a lot of things happened to Reddit.

    The most recent obvious decline was allowing AI moderation. That’s when I finally checked out.

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      Yup. No description other than ‘you violated the rules’ and you’re supposed to guess which rule. It’s like dating a gaslighting sociopath.

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      it was pretty obvious when in feb, everyone was getting the AI ban message left and right, and on all your old accounts too. and then comes the luigi/violence banning, plus musk interference. and now SHADOWBANNINg at random for anything, its just to keep the user numbers low on the site. for normal users, and not spammers(of fans, links) instant ban for some, and then they accidentally commented ina sub where it might have requirements.

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    That’s the cute part about enforcing civility rules…

    They are only cute when they do it to “Nazis”…

    But when “Nazi” do it to you… It is fascism

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      Yes, when fascists do it, it is in fact fascism. If you in turn ban fascists, it’s not “cute”, it’s wimpy. My grandfather killed fascists for the government during a thing called World War II which you can google more information about.

      Motherfuck fascists. They should be on their knees every night thanking their maker that it’s not still open season on them like it ought to be if they hadn’t succeeded in taking over.

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    Most of reddit is now a gross loop of ChatGPT shitting into its own mouth.

    Like well obver 50% of the accounts are not real people anymore, moderation is also now handled by AI.

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      there was an article a while back, said 50% were bots anyways, while i was on reddit, it got noticibally quiet when reddit decided to do one of these purges.

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      True but point of OP is that it used to be liberal echo chamber but that has now changed.

      Clearly Elon wants it a different way so you post anything you like as long as it fits Elon’s desired narrative.

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        It didn’t start as an echo chamber. Initially it was one of the few places online a progressive minded person could go and feel like they could express their opinions openly. And by “progressive” I mean both left and right leaning ideologies.

        Which, funny enough is now a foreign concept. We call everyone on the left “progressive”, even though Biden and Kamala are clearly conservative Democrats. And we call Vance a “conservative” even though he’s clearly a progressive Republican.

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          Yep, absolutely. I lean right but fucking hate Trump. On lemmy I can say that, on old reddit I could say that, on current reddit I’ll get really nasty, hateful remarks and almost zero open dialogue

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    Loads of old accounts are now just getting perma banned site wide.

    I had an accot that hadn’t been used for commenting (just the every now and then looking for something) that got perma banned about a month ago. Reason? None given.

    I’m guessing they want to rid the site of users that still remember how great it once was

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      Account age was used when factoring the credibility/legitimacy of a user account when humans moderated.

      The AI moderators don’t care, and making most non-banned accounts younger makes it harder to verify the legitimacy of the accounts, which is even a good thing if they are trying to flood the site with bots.

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        this hasnt slowed down mass accounts from created instantly and to spam propaganda, OF accs, or Links to a business. i think what happen is they just upped thier sensitivity of thier spam filters, now its seeing botting everywhere, even normal people. and yes AI cant discriminate between a real person and a botter.

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      I remember when reddit used to invite actual interesting celebrities to do AMA’s. Things never were quite the same after they fired Victoria.

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        There was even a time when AMA guests would just do the AMA for fun, or to get in touch with their fans. Not just when they are starring in a new movie or show / have “written” a book or some other financial motivation looming overhead.

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        Oh good old Victoria… I wonder what happened to her, I’m sure she landed on her feet.

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        there is one that still does AMA, but he shills for republicans now, and posts propaganda(because he conveniently started doing this 1-2 months before trumps election as if he was shoring up republican support and this was right after coming out as hollywood republican) about vets/vet injuries, how he “Cares” about them, just because he was in a movie and visited a hospital.(reminiscient of how hilaria baldwin think shes spanish just because she lived in europe for a while)

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      same here, i dint realize i created an accounts 5+years ago, suddenly i started receiving ban message in email all at once. also triggers it if you recieved a temp ban too. people made accounts a safety measure just incase a sub decides to ban them, and the new acct is avoiding that sub while commenting normally elsewhere.

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        You get bot warnings for “promoting violence” or some shit. They’re basically making “thought-crimes” a thing now.

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    Got banned for saying that “Israeli people should be upset enough with Netanyahu to have his head on a pike” for “advocating violence”. Even non-native English speakers are familiar with this expression which does not literally mean heads on pikes unless you somehow travel back in time to medieval Europe.

    I’ve been on reddit since it’s inception and while I didn’t go there that often now that Lemmy exists the ban kinda seals the Reddit brand for me.

    Another turning point was the April fools mini game this year which was universally hated. This has never happened on Reddit before. I think Reddit is beyond redemption at this point unfortunately and Reddit itself thinks that so they’ll get their bags while they can.

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      on pics i was able to get some people reported for the ops of those post trying to frame it as a BIDEN only issue(these gaza injuries pics are a biden caused issue) i was reminding them all republicans wouldve supported as well as any D president, which i reported as misinformation . and then i pointed out this was never the issue for the decades of the same violence while benajmain was in power, and suddenly it started popping up as propaganda against biden. remember trump told Netanyahu not to stop the attacks, because it would hurt his chances of winning, dint seen any railing trump for doing that, so it means all those posts were just to attack the dems.

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        Tbh I’m 80% conviced that Reddit is infiltrated by Israel astroturf and I say that as someone who used to support Israel.

        All these bad actor signs that Israel justifies is actually doing a long term opposite if it can flip supporters like this. Extremely poor leadership of really unmatched levels up until recent US election of Trump imo.

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      When you make a new account it’s asks you for some of your likes. Sports, gaming, memes… Turns out Elon Musk is his own interest as well.

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    Yep, also told off Nazis. Then, perm banned. I’ve been on that site for 15 years, moved over to Lemmy. Fuck Reddit.

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    I’d say the most recent major influences were the IPO and the emergence of LLMs.

    Reddit becoming a publicly traded company and the preparation to do so certainly initiated a major shift in its priorities.

    Ai and large language models make it easier than ever to create shiny, but low quality content.

    And the rest is just reddit becoming more mainstream leading to an overall shift towards banal rather than niche topics.

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      i said they are following the facebook method, FB is now mostly AI using old accounts pushing right wing propaganda, i only see reddit will do the same eventually. or they try to look like a"both sides" type of site while allowing signicant astroturfing from russian trolls.

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      I suspect they have been tweaking the front page algorithms to bury niche posts. Niche subs that I already follow don’t seem to have changed, but r/popular and r/all have definitely lost their spark.

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        pushing r/conservatives, and any sub that talk about politics to the front was pretty obvious of the manipulation. Also the “baiting subs” like glowups, gym is there too.

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    Its been downhill for a while but seems to have picked up speed in the last 6 months or do. Hmm. Wonder why that is.

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    Got banned for telling a Nazi off.

    I hate to be that guy, but when you say “Nazi,” are you referring to a literal 1940s National Socialist German Workers Party 3rd/4th Reich “Aryan Race is superior and Jews are evil” Nazi (aka a real actual Nazi), or someone with a different political/social opinion/ideology from you (ie, a Republican/Democrat/whatever is opposite of your political/social ideology)?

    I was on Reddit for like 13 years and never got banned for less than positive interactions with people that said they supported real, actual Nazis.

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      No.

      The names change, but the ideology is the same. “Nazi” is just what they called themselves then. Now they’re “MAGA Republicans.” The ideology is virtually identical.

      The ideology being blame “The Other” for your woes, when the Aristos are the ones fucking you.

      “The Other” now being Latino migrants and Transsexuals.

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      You conveniently left out the mostly likely case of them being Neo-Nazis which have been around since post-WWII.

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        I mean, was not when I said “4th Reich” including Neo-Nazis? I thought that is what I included.

        Just to be clear, I do not support Nazis or Neo-Nazis. But American Democrats and Republicans (or any other ideology that may be different from my own) are not Nazis or Neo-Nazis. I don’t agree with either side of American politics, but that does not make me qualify them as Nazis.

        IMO, calling anyone that is not an actual, real Nazi, such as an American Democrat or Republican (or whoever else thinks opposite from me), a “Nazi” or even “Neo-Nazi,” de-values the real suffering that people who are actual Holocaust victims had to deal with. Quite frankly, is insulting to me that anyone would ever attempt to equate the two. Its like saying getting hit by a fly swatter and a train will be the same level of pain and suffering.

        I might think someone who thinks opposite of me is stupid, but it is neither illegal or against any rules to be stupid (sadly). But I certainly would not call them a Nazi and de-value the suffering Holocaust victims had to go through.

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      Given how Reddit bans are currently being dealt out, it’s likely a “Aryan Race is superior and Jews are evil” Republican.

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        Well, Spez stated in an interview if society collapsed, he would be one of the ones in charge, due to his superiority.

        “Steve Huffman, cofounder and CEO of Reddit, is confident he can emerge as a winner after the collapse of the social order. As he told Osnos, “I also have this somewhat egotistical view that I’m a pretty good leader. I will probably be in charge, or at least not a slave, when push comes to shove.” This seems at the very least debatable—perhaps even wishful thinking.”

        https://www.thenation.com/article/society/billionaire-preppers-strangelove-sbf/

        There was an interview where a tech reporter sat in on a meeting between Techbroligarchs, and they were literally discussing how to keep their security and staff loyal. The subject of “Shock Collars” was seriously discussed.

        https://naturalblaze.com/2022/09/ultra-wealthy-preppers-ponder-shock-collars-to-keep-shtf-security-personnel-in-line.html

        Good luck with that when the your Security takes your family hostage, Genius.

        These guys are that delusional.

        They are terrified. They should be. We should make them more afraid.

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        on another forum(not lemmy) they said reddit has recently enhanced thier detection of people ban evading using paid methods, which uses things to hide thier browser ID, IP,etc. its getting worst actually. thier also doing bulk bans, if a stranger gets banned anyone that is similar to that acct is also shadowbanned(allegedly thats what other banned users are reporting)

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          I’ve tried multiple ways of getting past it every account is almost instantly shadowbanned , I gave up searched for an alternative and found this

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      NSDAP, of course. Their moronic administrative decision of having redundant public institutions compete with each other is simply nonsense.

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        Yes, of course. Because only a Nazi would be concerned with trying to be respectful of victims of the awful, inhumane treatment they had to endure under the rule of one of the worst, if not the worst, governments of all time. Thank you. a should have realized this sooner.

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    Not to mention the reposts.

    The number of old pics and videos that keep reposting is through the roof.

    r/AskReddit has dropped in quality. It used to keep me busy and entertained for ages.

    The only reason I use Reddit now are for old niche posts that answer specific questions. Other than that, I find my selfing going to lemmy first these days.

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    I had a 13 year old account I simply stopped using in 2023 when mobile.reddit.com was killed and the API changes fees were introduced. Lemmy was “good enough” get to get what I was getting from reddit. I stopped using reddit and haven’t posted since.

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          Your data is still there for Reddit to monetize.

          Overwrite all your old posts with a protest message. Wait a day. Repeat. Wait a week. Repeat. A month, repeat. Then delete shit. Going back to undelete a random post managed in this manner will be too costly for them.

          Downside is that I have yet to find a script that actually catches everything. All the well-known scripts miss a lot, likely on account of their limitations.