I voted for him. But he is still a Lib and we still need something better.
This is the way. Put out the fire before you worry about the leaky faucet.
It’s the peak of privilege to celebrate “normalcy”.
Peak privilege is to demand things to be absolutely perfect and refuse to except gradual improvements.
It’s such a depressingly low bar to elect a gilded to the tits finance guy and pretend that’s normal.
Carney bounced from Bank of Canada to Bank of England to UN Special Envoy focused on glad-handing petro-states in the fumbled effort to address climate change. He’s a career bag man for big business. In the vast majority of other countries would be - at best - center right.
But in Canada, this is what passes for a normal liberal.
That tracks, because the Liberals are centre right
Friggin love this meme template. Why was that little boy so mad? What did he want to do that day instead of getting his pictures taken? I relate, little dude.
I think they are headshots for an acting resume. So he is upset about being a child celebrity
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I was watching a video of an american that lives abroad saying he is trying to get a new nationality at the country he lives at, because he thinks the country, and other countries as well, may not want americans around for much longer. He said he’s afraid things may escalate. I thought that was so crazy! how fast you can go from feeling safe and privileged to suddanly feeling like you are hated by everyone. 100 DAYS!
I’m partway through learning the language, but I moved my family over 2 years back when I felt which way the wind was blowing.
I’m less worried for myself, I can (and have) literally lived anywhere and will manage, but it feels so good to have them safe in what I consider the best country in the world right now.
Flying back feels like flying into a banana republic, or honestly China in the 10s.
Looking at quite a few reactions from other countries, a lot of them seem to want to brain drain the hell out of the US.
I mean, I’m down, I want to get off Mr. bones’ Wild Ride.
Please brain drain me, I hate this country, it is a fascist shithole doomed to repeat over and over again with endless bumper crops of naive but extremely confident libertarians and conservatives who shout down any kind of adult nuanced conversation and flip randomly between being manipulated by their own racism that they loudly and violently deny and reinventing basic things very badly while refusing to learn anything from previous people who tried the same thing.
Some people joke about Carney’s lack of a “celebrity charisma”, or being “too boring”.
Tells you all you need to know about why the US is going through.
Better to have an economist learn how to be a politician, than a politician learn to be an economist. Too many countries allow themselves and their parliaments devolve into authentic fish markets where the person talking the loudest, or getting the cheapest “gotcha” moment, are deemed to be “awesome”.
Give me boring, please. “interesting times” are only good to learn about in history books, not as they happen.
May you live in interesting times is a curse, not a blessing.
It is still a do-nothing liberal who pushes their overton window right of even Trudeau setting the stage for the same shit in Canada as the US just a few years delayed
The expressions are correct. It was waaay too close for comfort.
I’m not gonna congratulate Canada on not completely shitting the bed. The Canadians were going to vote in a Trump-like conservative until Trump started banging on about Canada being the 51st state. If Trump kept his mouth shut, it would have been curtains for the Liberal party.
Canadians did not vote for the Liberals based on their record or policies, they voted to tell Trump to fuck off. The moment Trump is no longer a threat, the unity dies and everything swings back to the Conservatives, which isn’t a good thing.
Better than starting a war to manufacture unity.
they voted to tell Trump to fuck off.
God, if only our voters did the same.
But no, let’s talk about principles and genocide Joe, I’m sure that will help Gaza, that will really show them all!!!
Yeah, those guys are still pretty butthurt when you call them out. they just can’t get over their righteous stupidity backfiring.
They thought they were smarter and more moral than everyone else.
Their arrogant ignorance led to them falling for a trick only slightly less old than “Hey, look over there!”.
Yeah, as someone from the shit hole to the south, I was very relieved Canada didn’t go in the populist, right wing, direction it was looking like. I am hoping the failure of the trump administration instigates a push back to the general trend right that has been going on in the west. My bigger, less likely hope, is that we can reflect on what happened and actually address the popularity of fascism.
I’m glad we can drop the fucking bravado and acknowledge this now. We need to in order to survive.
With any luck the Conservatives will split back into two parties. It’s unlikely, but the splitting of the Conservatives would be a welcome surprise.
There the People Party of Canada that has been a home to those who think the Conservatives aren’t racists, transphobes and conspiracy nut jobs enough
Yeah it was a close election. We absolutely did not reject Trump with any consensus. There’s not as much to celebrate people think.
What people don’t know is the Conservatives here have had a revolving door of leaders in search of a Trump-like candidate. The past several election cycles have been this way. The party has sold their soul to MAGA style politics a long time ago.
They just had the best showing ever in this election even though it was a loss. And this is with the best Trump wannabe candidate they’ve managed to field thus far. A belligerent authoritarian-like tyrant with zero shame. They are not going to stop this any more than the Republicans would to turn back from Trump. They may even keep the current guy even though he lost his own seat.
Canada will inevitably elect a conservative government. It’s a defacto two party system. It will all go to hell. Especially if MAGA is still ruling America at the same time.
Also, Mexico
Canadian conservatives are 40% of the voters. That’s already way to much. And they using the trump book more and more: lie, lie and blame the left for fucking anything, some things will sticks. Even if I’m glad he was elected to deal the american shit show, the guy is still a fucking banker who’s first action was to remove the carbon taxe. While we have to deal with the toddler from south who wants to annex us, the climate crisis wont fix itself magically.
I’m ashamed of some of the regions of Québec that voted Conservative. Being from rural Montérégie but now living in Montréal is like two different worlds when it comes to politics. The riding where most of my family lives was won by the Bloc Québecois but followed by the Conservatives. The riding next to it was won by the Conservatives.
I hate to admit it, but if it were not for the Bloc Québecois, there would probably be even more people here voting for the Conservatives.
The propaganda train remains strong up here regardless. Half of the west is losing their mind every day pretending that Carney is some kind of secret nightmare that is going to soon be revealed, thus we’ve all shit the bed and will rue the day.
The really irritating thing to me is seeing the Trumpanzees mock Canada, talking like this is the end of Canada as a country.
No self-awareness, no realization that Trump’s policies are the direct cause of this. They can’t conceive of any way to advance their interests beyond people just abasing themselves before Trump.
Canada has had 0.7% per capita GDP growth since 2015. Which puts us 2nd last only to Luxembourg in all 38 countries of the OECD.
We elected a person who said oil needs to stay in the ground in their book, who wants to grow population at more than 450k a year (1% cap, plus births) to prop up GDP despite the current high unemployment and the severe housing shortage, and who wants to join Germany and the UK in spinning up solar and wind which clearly did not go well for either of them.
https://newsletter.doomberg.com/p/let-ed-run-it
Through that lens I could see how they could be fearful of Canada’s demise, especially if we have another 10 years like the last. Gross government debt also somehow doubled since 2015 as well to achieve this lethargic growth, before subtracting pensions to create the net debt figure the government generally uses.
wants to join Germany and the UK in spinning up solar and wind which clearly did not go well for either of them
German here, works pretty well actually.
You’re also burning lignite coal now, which you take from Africa who is now having blackouts. But it went pretty poorly overall phasing out nuclear for renewables.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Germany
Key to Germany’s energy policies and politics is the Energiewende, meaning “energy turnaround” or “energy transformation”. The policy includes nuclear phaseout (completed in 2023) and progressive replacement of fossil fuels by renewables. However, contrary to plan, the nuclear electricity production lost in Germany’s phase-out was primarily replaced with coal electricity production and electricity importing. One study found that the nuclear phase-out caused $12 billion in social costs per year, primarily due to increases in mortality due to exposure to pollution from fossil fuels.
Percap is probably not the best metric here, firstly, you’ve had massive immigration, your growth rate is around 3x that of the US.
Secondly, that windoe is also centered around covid.
Well we have a negative productivity growth as well at the moment. Hence the BoC ringing the alarm bells. That makes it harder to pay our growing debt load even with spreading it out to more people.
Trumpanzee - I’m nicking that!
But it’s offensive to apes.
True. Apes would never let a trump-analogous-ape rule over them. That kind of ape would get the shit beat out of him and he’d cower in a corner thumb in mouth.
Humans are apes
Sure, sure, but, if politics were sane, Carney would have been the conservative nominee and there would have been no fear of fascism.
To be fair, we basically just elected a Biden-style neoliberal who is slightly to the right of Trudeau. As affordability continues to gradually decline, our Trump (Poilievre) or a similar guy will be even more empowered. We’re basically a few years behind the USA right now and your right are actively trying to speed it up.
We also destroyed the other smaller parties. I feel like we’re basically a two party system at this point.
That’s why the 2-party system is so flawed. I used to be so gullible to think that if everyone keeps voting for the left party then the parties overall would sway more left in their future policies, but that is impossible in the capitalistic hellhole we live in.
Good thing there were 5 parties in this election. We got another minority prime minister, which will need to work on the left of what they would.
I’m still a bit baffled it doesn’t work.
Like, the Left not doing enough SHOULD lead the right to decide “Dang, we need a message that appeals. Let’s blame the rich, and champion power over corporations!” But…instead they blame nonsensical things, promise nothing, and appeal to hatred, and get more than one vote.
That should just…never happen. That faction should be gonezo, making plenty of room for an independent party.
The right just blaims the problems created by the rich on minorities like migrants, trans and homosexuals. That makes them look like they actually care about the people being hurt by the system, however also allows them to gain support from the rich. The rich do onw a lot of the media, which has massive influence on the vote.
The left party also knows this, so they usually do some minor things, which do not change the system too much in the hopes on not being hurt by the rich.
Oh and both parties are deeply corrupt.
It’s because of this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schismogenesis
It’s like being on a see saw, trying to get higher, with both sides doing extreme polar opposite actions eventually. Momentum is part of it. The idea is complex and the wiki doesn’t do it justice, but it’s fine.
The effect causes two well-meaning individuals having a conversation to ramp up different styles, resulting in a disagreement that does not stem from actual difference of opinion.
This video explains it quite well:
Minority Rule: First Past the Post Voting by CP Grey.
The system isn’t designed to be a two-party system, but no matter how many parties there actually are are (in the US, there are actually more than a dozen active parties), FPTP voting inevitably results in only 2 being viable.
This will not change unless a different voting method is implemented.
I’m on record as saying even if the US had elected Harris, we’d be right back on the precipice four years after. Maybe Trump, maybe someone else, but it would still be awful.
As badly as the world needs Luigi right now, he’s not the long term solution.
The world doesn’t need one Luigi, it needs many Luigis. And a complete societal overturn.
We’re basically a few years behind the USA right now
People said that when Trump was elected the first time.
Isn’t he a banker too? I mean, it IS a normal leader now that I think of it.
The liberal party should pass the electoral reform they promised so more political parties can compete on who can beat conservatives the best.
Stopping the conservatives is the priority… right?
The liberal party honors their promises… right?
Electoral Reform Videos
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems
did you forget the voting reform referendum the liberals already gave us?
Bold of you to assume OP doesn’t live in Turkey or Israel.
