• CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work
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      1 day ago

      I agree that impeachment is mostly ineffectual, but the first two times were for relatively BS charges. At least this time it’s for something serious.

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        I… What?

        How did this get upvoted? One of those impeachments was literally for insurrection. And it passed, with Republican votes!

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          23 hours ago

          The other was for illegally stopping Congressionally approved funds - good thing he never would do that again.

        • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work
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          I think it’s hyperbole to call January 6th an insurrection. Regardless, fomenting an angry mob of morons is nothing compared to ethnically cleansing 1.8 million people.

            • CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work
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              No, it was a protest that, like many in this country, featured instances of vandalism and violence as a direct result of bad crowd control and escalation by law enforcement. Calling it an insurrection means accepting a precedent for harsher criminalization of future protests of all types and their associated movements, especially the ones that threaten capital. It also means dishonoring the likes of heros who really did go for it, like John Brown.

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                No it was not. It was an insurrection you’re literally ignoring the definition and reality if you say otherwise.

                Bringing in John Brown just shows your ass. John Brown incited a slave revolution with the goal of a full overthrow of government, an insurrection. He too held an insurrection. But your comparison to the two falls flat as John Brown was absolutely right to overthrow a corrupt slave owning government. Donald Trump attempted to overthrow a legit democracy that while you can criticize does not hold the same evil as the government John Brown faced

                Horseshoe theory, insurrection isn’t a blanket evil. Donald Trump’s goals are selfish and harmful towards the masses, evil. John Brown’s was goodhearted, righteous and true, good.

              • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                So you think attempting to deliver fake electors to the capitol building to declare the loser of the election the winner to not be an insurrection? Because that’s what happened on January 6th. The crowds, rioting, guns, zip ties, threats and pipe bombs were all just extra

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      Dems need to use thison everything he does illegal. Show that he can be removed midterm if they flip enough seats.

      Beat the drums of “this is illegal” until the people say stop. Fuck the"well now they can do it" arrgument.

      • Empricorn@feddit.nl
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        Exactly. Stay motivated. Don’t act like everything is hopeless and a foregone conclusion. They might be able to destroy our democracy, but we don’t have to make it easy for them. Resist everything, don’t do their jobs for them…