I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.
That level of censorship does not help their cause; it actively hinders it because regular people aren’t allowed to have their own beliefs on the matter. Either they succumb to the hysteria, or they’re ousted.
I’d honestly be surprised if even asking this question didn’t result in censorship. That’s how bad things have gotten.
Edit: Plenty of personal attacks, but no legitimate answers! Did anyone come to this thread to actually answer the question?
I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.
Did anyone come to this thread to actually answer the question?
Looks like the answer you got was “not here” and you can’t accept that.
instead of only allowing comments that support the trans agenda.
The agenda of being able to exist?
What other “agenda” do you think they have?
Do you know any communities that allow criticism of transgenderism?
I’d be much more willing to answer your questions if I was confident that my replies wouldn’t be censored for disagreeing with you.
You are being dishonest. You were just now basically invited to discuss but chose to ignore that and immediately assume a defense position of “not being confident”.
Chances are you will take this post as an example of being oppressed of an opinion as well.
If you are sincere then engage with the person asking a question.
Well, if you want to have this discussion then we’ll have to take it elsewhere.
So you still choose to be dishonest. And a liar. If you want to take “it elsewhere” then that suggests you know of such a place, a thing you keep asking for. But seem to know about it?
I am now convinced you are a social experiment; possibly AI driven or as a biological entity.
Take this exactly as you think how I might mean this.
Do you know any communities that allow criticism of transgenderism?
Again:
What kind of criticism?
Like I can criticize my friend for not recycling, no one will complain. If I say they shouldn’t be allowed to exist because of an immutable physical characteristic, I’d be a horrible fucking person.
So what exactly do you want to criticize besides their right to exist?
Again:
I’d be much more willing to answer your questions if I was confident that my replies wouldn’t be censored for disagreeing with you.
Do you know any communities that allow criticism of transgenderism? If you can’t answer this, then you can just move on to another thread.
So…
You won’t say what you want to say, until I tell you a place it’s allowed to be said?
Do you legitimately and truthfully not understand how that’s impossible?
How is anyone supposed to know where you can say something if you won’t tell them what you want to say?
Logically. How is anyone ever going to be able to answer your question?
Alright well, this is a waste of time.
I’m just going to ignore you and move on since you’re clearly not here to answer the thread’s question.
I’m just going to ignore you
If you were ignoring people, you wouldn’t be responding to them saying “I’m ignoring you”.
Does that make sense?
To ignore someone, you simply ignore them. I can’t think of a simpler way to explain that…
we’ve found the most fragile person on the platform, fuck off back to twitter.
More personal attacks.
more fragility.
In here is a good place, as you can see you aren’t being censored.
That being said, let me show you how you read by changing a single word:
I’m looking for places with less censorship so we can have actual discussions instead of only allowing comments that support the black agenda.
That level of censorship does not help their cause; it actively hinders it because regular people aren’t allowed to have their own beliefs on the matter. Either they succumb to the hysteria, or they’re ousted.
I’d honestly be surprised if even asking this question didn’t result in censorship. That’s how bad things have gotten.
And there’s no “belief” in the matter, transgender is an understood condition, like ADHD or skin color. You trying to claim transgenders are not people, or that gender is not a social construct is just ridiculous, that’s why you’ll get downvoted or banned, same reason you would get arrested by going somewhere and claiming blacks are not humans, you’re factually incorrect, spreading misinformation and promoting violence, none of which should be tolerated in any civilized society due to the Tolerance Paradox.
Well you seem to consider it a “hysteria” and a “trans agenda”, so I don’t think you would welcome any actual discussion. Or that you care at all either way.
If you really want to discuss the question of what gender really is, does it exist, and how this messy stuff of being a human functions, there are much better ways to open a discussion.
Do you know any lemmy communities that allow criticism of transgenderism?
Try Truth Social.
Most of them. There are a couple of crazy ones, but mostly don’t be an asshole and I doubt many would ban you for expressing an opinion that gender is permanently fixed on birth/conception. You would get downvoted a lot though.
Can you share some examples?
Based on what I’ve seen and experienced, most communities do not allow criticism of transgenderism and will ban anyone for “expressing an opinion that gender is permanently fixed on birth/conception.”
Your opinion is being allowed right here and now. But because you suck, you’re being criticized and down voted.
You have a chance to run an experiment.
Know your audience. A lot of people here are trans or trans-adjacent. Imagine if you were speaking to a room full of trans people. What would you say to convince them to accept their birth gender? Or at least not be booed out of the room.
We could probably have this discussion in a community that allows criticism of transgenderism.
You are just begging the question, troll. Get out of here with your doubly dishonest “discussion”. Holy fuck, obvious troll.
Not really.
Nah, I checked the user’s history before engaging, they (heh) seem to be honestly convinced. But I don’t think even they can explain where their fear of trans people comes from.
We can have it RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW. Nobody is censoring you, but you refuse to engage in the debate you claim you can’t post about.
Is the conversation not happening right here and now? You have been given an offer to speak and it feels a bit like you are shutting it down yourself. It feels like you are concerned that it will not go over well.
I believe that trans people have a right to live and thrive, just as anyone does. To me the question feels like “should we let people with brown hair exist?” “All those brownies are trying to make us all have brown hair!”
Do you have an answer to the thread’s question?
by dumbpotato
Wow.
Nobody’s gonna fall for your “actual discussion without censorship” excuse, you’re obviously looking for a place where transphobia is welcome. Try xitter or reddit.com/r/conservative and GTFO off Lemmy with that shit.
But the more important question is: why?
Why the fuck would you WANT to be in a hate echo chamber?
Why would you want to read this week’s made up story about some creep that put on a skirt to creep on the ladies bathroom, when instead you could watch a cat video, or a cool car or talk about yesterday’s sports game or a cute potted plant or whatever it is that you actually like?
You have a very limited time in this world brother, why waste it being angry at some imaginary trans boogieman that will never really affect your life in any way, instead of doing something actually meaningful, or something that makes you happy?
The fact that this post and your answers are still up are, in itself, the proof that criticism of (sigh) « transgenderism » is accept here.
However you look like you dont understand how a conversation is working if you’re spewing hate and do the cry baby when we point out that you’re spewing hate you don’t want a conversation, you want people that will say you’re right which you are not
You’re not being censored, you just have a shitty and unpopular take. Go back to whatever cess pit you crawled out of. Bigots will not find support here.
May-be not talking about trans agenda and transgenderism would make your post feeling less bigoted, and more open for discussion.
And in general denying basic human rights to people no matter the reason sucks
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Not trans here but, NO. There is no “debate” or “discussion” to be had about anyones right to exist without persecution. Full stop. It’s not your business to “discuss” it and your opinion about someone’s existence is irrelevant. It’s not “censorship”. What you’re not so slyly complaining about here is that you’re feeling the consequences of your bigotry. Take it elsewhere.
I am a trans person and disagree with basically everything you’ve said. The only reason I upvoted this post is because censorship is really a problem and you should be allowed to say this stuff even if I vehemently disagree with you - I’m not going to change your mind if you’re banned or censored, or my talking down to you. If this post gets taken down, I don’t mind having a discussion with you via PMs.
I can understand you fear getting your account banned if you say your opinions, however you should be aware that using inflammatory language like ‘trans agenda’ or ‘transgenderism’ will make people less happy to engage with you in good faith. I’m not saying you shouldn’t be allowed to say that, but rather using more neutral language to discuss your opinions may result in a more productive conversation, as advice. I welcome your reply :)
No. Go back to reddit or Twitter or wherever such asshole behavior is tolerated.
Pretty sure we’re not allowed to criticize transgenderism on reddit.
Twitter is a different format.
Neither is decentralized.
Also, people aren’t assholes just because they’re not loyal to transgender beliefs. You’re not helping the cause when you try to invalidate their views.
But they are acting like assholes when they say things like “trans hysteria”. Combative and dismissive behavior is jerk behavior, so if you don’t want people to call you one, don’t act like one.
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No, they’re assholes. And their views aren’t worth validating. Shouldn’t be platformed or even entertained as much as I’ve entertained yours.
So ill say it plain and leave it at this. Fuck off back to the Klan rally. Cunt.
I’m going to ignore you because you’re being extremely rude.
The fact that you include terms like “trans agenda” and “transgenderism” in your post are pretty clear indications that you’re not serious about avoiding rudeness.
May as well just cut off your ears at this point because a lot of people are going to be very rude to you anywhere you try to spout this shit outside of the Klan rally the commentor mentioned.
Stop worrying about what’s in other people’s pants, you’ll have a much more relaxed life.
You started this thread with hostility and rudeness, what exactly did you expect?
It’s been a long time that I’ve seen an actual fascist on here. Probably just another rage bait account. Fuck off. Thanks.
Do you know any lemmy communities that allow criticism of transgenderism?
Surely replying with the same question over and over will eventually get you the answer you’re hoping for
Trying to stay on topic.
Why are you even asking here? Why not directly go to twitter or truth social? That seems the obvious choice based on all the red flags in your post.
“The trans agenda” is in itself a bigoted statement. The agenda of trans people is to exist. If you’ve never used the terms “straight agenda” or “cis agenda” you’re the one with a bigoted agenda.
