I might get hate because of my instance here, but in an attempt to better understand Lemmy I’m wondering if some of you can shed a light on why you chose this instance, what’s great about it, what could be better, is the instance rivalries something that affects your use of the platform or is it just background noise?
I’m not trying to start a fight or mud slinging, it would be good if several people could say their piece and nobody shame or attack them for it no matter how much you disagree.
I wanted an actual leftist instance, not Libs pretending they’re left while upholding the worst parts of capitalism and imperialism. I wanted viewpoints outside of the colonial center. I feel like I got what I wanted. They’re pretty up front about what you’ll find inside.
I’m not trying to start a fight or mud slinging, it would be good if several people could say their piece and nobody shame or attack them for it no matter how much you disagree.
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(for those who don’t get it: this emoji-combination is miming the children’s saying “liar liar pants on fire”. sorry if i am ruining it or being too obvious)
Banned already, the guy was a riot
I think they managed to anger 3 different instances at the same time. If they weren’t doing such terrible comments would almost be impressive
I joined because I wanted access to a reddit-style place that wasn’t part of the neoliberal echo chamber that is culture in the imperial core, but I had gotten tired of the bear site.
I like the instance, I like the moderation, I like how its widely federated. I wish it did not have downvotes like hexbear does, but I find the .ml community to be much better in general, though a bit too sectarian at times.
I prefer .ml to hexbear because hexbear has big time “midwestern covid conscious lesbian bar” vibes at times.
My main issue with .ml is how other instances act. It’s pretty common to see ridiculous lies about .ml with a bunch of upvotes and the OP is never able to provide any proof when asked for it. But people still believe it because it’s .ml
Same with how a lot of users’ brains will shut down when they see anything they disagree with posted by someone from this instance. All rationality goes out the window and they retreat to a frustrating ad hominem of “you’re using this instance, thus I dont have to take it seriously” - “ml detected, opinion disregarded” it’s so sad to see people be so scared.I also see users from other instances cry about .ml moderation. Personally I feel like it is pretty evenhanded and fair, but moderation will always skew against outsiders. I’ve been banned from some communities due to incivility while the equally uncivil person I was replying to was not. That’s just how it is everywhere, I dont go about pretending like thats some special feature of .world.
So all in all I like it and my issue with it is mainly other instances.
“midwestern covid conscious lesbian bar”
It sometimes amazes me, the incredibly specific descriptions people will conjure up for reasons to justify not liking something 😆
It’s a reference to a specific thing
at times
though? 😅
I do not understand your question
You said that very specific thing, followed by “at times,” as if to say that incredibly specific thing happens every now and again. 😁
Yes? Sometimes the vibe of hexbear is similar to the vibe of the thing I referenced. I don’t really understand what the confusion is.
Alright man, it’s okay. There’s no confusion, I’m just saying. 👍
You know we can see your history right?
Oh it’s the account upset people don’t like politicians okay with genocide while also saying they know nothing about Israel or Palestine.
And of course world just locked the post the op did there with the similar question. Weird how only the one against free speech didn’t lock it 🤔
lol, just now noticed them saying shit like “This is a rather neurodivergent absolutist approach hoping for a utopia any smart person know is not achieved within the parameters of today’s power structure.” and “You don’t even need a tinfoil hat to see that if .ml is indeed russian made, trump is a russian plant (buy russian oil), then it all makes perfect sense.” and basically accusing all of .ml being Russian bots and/or paid actors because some of us are extremely opposed to voting? There’s a difference between having a discussion about the effectiveness of voting in helping to stop the genocide in Palestine, and starting to throw about dehumanizing shit and baseless accusations.
edit: oh yeah, and:
I understand this viewpoint. I think it’s less an opinion and more a neurological condition
yes, because we are all autistic and stupid we can’t see that the entire instance is controlled by the russians who put Trump in power, and all of this is evidenced by the actions of the mod of a single community and a few strong words, and by the fact some of our users refuse to participate in bourgeois elections in the imperial core. nice.
I understand this viewpoint. I think it’s less an opinion and more a neurological condition
What the fuck is wrong with that user? Or I guess I should have expected ableism from a lib… just like the rampant homophobia or racism (it’s against the right targets after all!!)
I really don’t know. Deeply unserious person, “ready to debate anyone on this” and the issue is voting? Grow up.
What the fuck is wrong with that user?
Wild what propaganda can do
I still don’t understand what that means. I don’t know what instance/s I use. I don’t know how to use a different one. I don’t know how to properly search across instances. I barely understand that an instance means something technical with accessing stuff.
I think the most annoying thing about being in .ml is all the .world people who have like kneejerk reactions to anything you say and get hostile just because of your instance. I have used account on Lemmygrad, and Hexbear too. Lemmygrad was the most laid back and I really liked it but I wanted to dip my toes into wider lemmy (grad isn’t federated with a lot of the more reactionary instances, which i like and is valid but causes me to not see certain things). Lemmy.ml is more like a normal social media site. It has the reactionaries, the liberals, etc. A lot of the interactions are negative and confrontational. But its also got a lot more content in general.
I don’t use other social media from lemmy. Haven’t for years now. So this is like my 1 cig a week allegory. Where I let myself have a bit of the slop.
.ml detected, opinion disregarded, brain shutting down.
I saw this in my replies and thought it was a real .world user for a second lol
I’ve mastered their language, lol
I love lemmy.ml
After witnessing the downfall of Reddit, both because of enshittification and in the overall discourse, it felt silly to jump to another neoliberal community. I feel the same way about Blue Sky.
I don’t care about instance rivalries at all. Reddit refugees fleeing the dismal quagmire that is the inevitable result of capitalist social media and going to the place MLs created as a direct response to those conditions, then criticizing MLs, is kind of amusing but that’s all. I created a .world account first because I didn’t know the lay of the land then realized I didn’'t really feel like reading those same jokes, quips, puns, and slogans ad nauseum. I’m glad the architecture of lemmy allows me to choose a refuge where I don’t feel crazy. I regret it took me so long to find my people.
I appreciate you coming here and asking this question.
I didn’'t really feel like reading those same jokes, quips, puns, and slogans ad nauseum.
this begs the question of why the neoliberals are here at all.
reddit/facebook/instagram/etc. will always have better bread and circuses so expecting to get it on lemmy is a lost cause to begin with and that lacking quality – combined with efforts to minimize leftist narratives like piefed and tesseract – means that they won’t stay here for long.
so what are they looking for when the come here when they continue to insist on implementing the same enshitification that made reddit so insufferable?
I’m now seeing Harris apologia and people throwing Palestine and trans people under the bus at over at .world and its getting upvoted.
I appreciate you taking the time to respond
It’s a Lemmy server where you can talk about any brand of cat food that interests you. I love the smell of freedom in the morning.
I heard tall tales of “the tankie triad” when I first flew from reddit to lemmy.world (because it’s the largest, and back then as a baby leftist I just wanted reddit without reddit you know?). I kinda floated between dbzer0, .world and .ml for specific communities (and because I really didn’t understand how this works) for a while, but the more my understanding of Marxism and communism (and especially anti-imperialism) grew, the more I gravitated towards just the tankie triad. Now I mainly browse and engage on those.
I feel the largest issue between .worlders (and others) and .mlrs (and, more widely, between communists and non-communists) stems from that anti-imperialism, especially when it comes to our critical suport of modern Russia. We see the US-led western imperial hegemony to be the root-cause of all suffering on earth, and lend our critical support to states on the receiving end of that machine of violence even when those states are capitalistic themselves. NATO and the EU are also parts of this machine, and evidence shows these being the cause for the war in Ukraine. This evidence isn’t necessarily evident from the get-go, especially if one has grown up in said western states (the amount of deprogramming one must go through is massive, believe me). I’ve been trying to limit painting every .world user as a clueless lib whenever one comes in to the comments, but some .worlders like to uncharitably paint us as idiots who haven’t realized the USSR fell already.
idk, just my two cents
some .worlders like to uncharitably paint us as idiots who haven’t realized the USSR fell already.
Which is ironic, considering how many of them I see saying “comrade Trump” and talking about the KGB in the present tense.
It is very annoying to end up in an argument about modern day Russia with someone who you quickly realize only knows what they saw from watching Archer.
Yeah, I agree. And if any particular user comes into the conversation with, say, dehumanization and homophobia, that’s absolutely not worth reasoning with in my opinion. But yes, listening to a few repeated arguments day in and day out gets real tired fast.
Huh
It’s a nice place. I’ve never had any issues with it. I like that I have a space to be with like-minded people after spending most of my time around people who very much aren’t. I like that I don’t often encounter racism and while I do encounter misogyny it is less common here than other online spaces
this about sums up my experience.
more often than not when i do encounter misogyny or transphobia it’s coming from someone off-instance and it’s taken care of when pointed out.
Didn’t even mention the transphobia but places like this and bearsite are such an oasis. Even when I do see transphobia it is at least subtler. I’m not seeing slurs thrown around
Bearsite?
its where all the gay daddies are
Hexbear
Most of the time I am not impacted by the instance rivalries because I largely browse by local instead of all. The only time I was affected by the instance rivalries is when a .world user started reposting all my photography over there, was messaging me about how he felt the admins were evil and he decided it was his purpose in life to bring down the admins and their instance and he was trying to rope me into it. I believe his name was cm0002
Still a serial poster. I’ve always just assumed it was a bot account.
They are very much proud of doing it manually. Part of their feeling important in the mowg crusades…
Sorry to hear that.
To me it was a matter of getting tired of imperialist and bigoted stuff, before that I used one that styles itself as apolitical, naively thinking they’d be at least somewhat better than Reddit. But nope, same reactionary, racist shit.
Politically I fit into .ml but they do not tolerate dissent. I was temporarily banned for saying it’s in poor taste to celebrate the deaths of US soliders. I get it, anti-imperialism. I’m anti-imperialist too, but it seems like the place is full of angsty edgy teenagers trying to outdo each other. It’s not a good look when people are watching your instance specifically to flag shit like that to show how crazy .ml is.
Would you celebrate the deaths of Nazi soldiers in WWII?
Generally I would not, however I would make exceptions for those that enjoyed cruelty.
Well…
Tell the other instances they were Russian soldiers, they’ll get over it
Yeah I know, that’s gross too
I respect your consistency
It’s good there are less murderers of black/brown innocent people worldwide. Unless one sees those black/brown as lesser people. If you feel patriotic about the US then you don’t belong here
Ffs here we go. I’m not patriotic but it’s a really bad PR move to broadcast that opinion online. You’re not going to win hearts and minds of the opposition with that.
Also, not wanting to celebrate deaths of soliders does not equal patriotism. Wtf?
What are you running for office? It’s morally consistent, lol.
it’s a really bad PR move to broadcast that opinion online.
what the fuck is this mentality
Okay if you’re not going to sway hearts and minds then what’s your plan?
I’m not an organization or a figurehead or a celebrity or a politician or a dog
Then why have political opinions at all?
How is having a political opinion an act of PR?
The conscription of those murderers wasn’t forced, they signed for killing poor innocent people. Liberals, ffs.
You think so? I guess you’re right, I’m not forced to participate in this vile capitalist system because I can live under a bridge.
The whole fucking system in rural America all but coerces their enlistment.
You’re putting some lives above others, in this case the lives consciously doing the path of mass murderers.
Not celebrating the death of pawns does not mean I condone what those pawns are doing. I’m not putting their lives above the people they’re killing. You’re making a lot of assumptions about me if you came to that conclusion.
I’m not celebrating the deaths of working class people who have been coerced/manipulated into carrying out the imperialists’ and capitalists’ objectives. Am I sad when they get killed? Perhaps a bit.They shouldn’t be where they are and doing what they’re doing (They probably didn’t even think they’d see combat when they enlisted, nor have they considered what role the US military actually plays in the world). Am I enraged when brown people are killed for absurd reasons? Yes, extremely. It’s disgusting that is allowed to happen.
So yes, when an American solider dies, it’s still a tragedy, and I’m not going to celebrate that (especially when there’s some freaks in .world looking for bad .ml behavior to put on display).
Anglos patting other Anglos on the back as always. 🙄
When my child’s school enrolled them in rotc with neither my knowledge nor permission, I raised immortal hell and made them take them right TF out and I was a liberal, then.










