• storm_shadow@piefed.social
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    5 days ago

    Good. Fuck the russians. My grandparents always said “ryssä on ryssä vaikka voissa paistais.” Which means “a russian is a russian even if you fry them in butter.” They never forgot what the soviets did to our country.

    • Zacpod@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      I have a couple Russian friends. They’re good people, hard working, ethical, considerate. Just like I have a few American friends who are good.
      YES, there are shitty Russians, and shitty Americans. Hell, there are even shitty Canadians. But hating an entire country because of their government is just bigotry.
      Judge people by their actions, not their government.

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        4 days ago

        You’re missing the point! We need these good citizens to help at the least start asking the question of what is happening and why. Yes, there two sides to every story and Russians constantly get presented with a different narrative that what we get in Europe and the Americas. Yes, there could be repercussions for raising certain domestically related questions in Russia. However, this is not a reason to not raise those questions like “Why is all our tourist visas cancelled in the Baltics!? Are we really doing something that could justify this?” This initiative is great for that reason. Heads up for the Overton Window. We must not accept a new normal where waging war on other countries is not a an unacceptable crime that needs the hardest imaginable punishment.

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          4 days ago

          I wasn’t suggesting the visa bans weren’t justified. I was just responding to bigotry in the post I responded to. Hating all Russians just because they live under a sadistic tyrant is no different than hating all Americans for the same reason.

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            3 days ago

            Amen! It’s crazy and dangerous times we live in where there’s no accountability, and no responsibility taken for anything the world leaders do. Putin kind of set the precedence in recent times by just openly invading another country. And Trump has more than caught up openly supporting Putin and Netanyahu. Xi is also doing his best, and these days there’s no political consensus to pressure China to not invade Taiwan. There would basically be no repercussions before it’s too late and the damage done.