I couldn’t believe my eyes seeing this advice to teach young boys to hit girls so as to restore the boys’ self esteem and pride.

This is the kind of toxic belief that shouldn’t be allowed to proliferate here and yet is embraced with open arms by other users.

That boys can only regain their pride and self esteem by hitting girls leads directly to more violence against women and girls.

  • velma@sh.itjust.worksOP
    63·
    3 days ago

    That boys can only regain their pride and self esteem by hitting girls leads directly to more violence against women and girls.

    What the fuck do you think this sentence means?

    • neatchee@piefed.socialEnglish
      43·
      3 days ago

      Please quote the part where it says “boys regain their pride by hitting girls” specifically and NOT “kids regain their pride by fighting back against bullies”.

      Because the latter is quite obviously what the OP was getting at, not the former.

      If you genuinely think OP was saying “hit girls to get your pride back” then we’re done here and I’m just gonna move on with my day

        • neatchee@piefed.socialEnglish
          44·
          3 days ago

          Well THAT’S pretty fuckin toxic. Yikes.

          As someone who was bullied a lot, I frequently got told fighting back (against the boys at my all boys school) would restore my pride. I was never told “go find a girl to hit when she’s mean to you, it’ll restore your pride.”

          Take that for what it’s worth.

          Byeeeeeee.

          • velma@sh.itjust.worksOP
            84·
            3 days ago

            Spend some energy calling out sexist comments instead of picking apart my wording on something that is rightfully outrageous.

            It’s telling that you’d rather scold me over this issue than pushing back on the actual sexist comment.

            • neatchee@piefed.socialEnglish
              34·
              3 days ago

              You have no clue what I do or don’t comment about. I saw this thread in my feed. I didn’t see the other one. I call out sexist comments both online and in my daily life on the regular.

              Congratulations on fabricating a reality to suit your own needs.

              Blocked.

        • neatchee@piefed.socialEnglish
          31·
          2 days ago

          Specifically referred to as “children” and then exclusively uses pronouns as the only form of gendered language, in a language where it is standard to use gendered pronouns when referring to a specific individual.

          Yes, the comment could have used “they” instead of “he/his” but that is not yet common practice in English (though I wish we’d get there)

          Next question please.

            • neatchee@piefed.socialEnglish
              21·
              2 days ago

              You think boys don’t lose pride when they’re beaten up by another boy?

              This is real close to “Tell me you’ve never been bullied without telling me you’ve never been bullied”.

              Grade-school fights are always about pride in some form or another.

              Seriously, I went to an all boys school, and by your logic no student in my entire school would ever have bruised pride since they never got beaten up by a girl.

                • neatchee@piefed.socialEnglish
                  31·
                  2 days ago

                  You’re the one who was trying to make a point about the pride stuff here, not me. I’m just responding to your points.

                  My only point was that the original comment in the screenshot is, in my opinion, pretty obviously talking about the (very flawed, and inappropriately applied) concept of “fighting back will restore pride” and not “hitting girls restores pride”.