• VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        23 days ago

        Calling him a cuck because Anisa has an OnlyFans is chud behavior. However, it’s a lot more than that. The OnlyFans thing is probably what got the most publicity, but that’s really not a big deal if they’re both fine with it.

        What is a slightly bigger deal, and the main reason people still bring that term out, is the repeated pattern of disrespect that has publicly worn Ian down for years. Events such as:

        -Anisa making him miss Max’s wedding because she had an appointment to get a tattoo.

        -Anisa saying his style is “trailer trash” on a podcast, and of course expanding when given the chance.

        -Anisa making fun of his chronic IBS on stream when he was obviously uncomfortable.

        -Anisa making him change his last name because “his last name is objectively ugly.”

        -Anisa making fun of his body before Creator Clash.

        -Anisa filming Ian struggling with a respiratory injury and fractured shins before Creator Clash for content, and urging him to fight anyway.

        -Anisa talking about how he would have lost Creator Clash in the end anyway after.

        -and more!

        Normally, I would write all that off as banter between a couple that regularly ribs each other, but iDubbbz clearly looks so uncomfortable during all of these moments where he’s onscreen and he does not “joke” back with Anisa either.

        Granted, namecalling does nothing to help Ian. He clearly needs a wakeup call for his self-worth. However, classic iDubbbz fans are not known for their eloquence, and Anisa’s repeated devaluation of the guy and his life, combined with his seeming willingness to just sit there and take it, have kept the “iCuckz” moniker alive long past the OnlyFans drama.

        Just my two cents. I’ve been thinking about the iDubbbz “downfall” lately. He was super right to pivot audiences and content, he just seems like he might have lost himself a little. I just wonder sometimes about what it would be like if iDubbbz pivoted left but kept that same brutal knack for surgically dismantling someone that’s being a piece of shit. That’s what I expected from the H3 Content Cop, and that was just regular-ass YouTube drama.

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          23 days ago

          I still dislike the idea of calling somebody cuck like that. It reinforces standards of toxic masculinity that devalues men for being less dominant than their spouse. It’s also bonus kink shaming that reinforces conservative norms. Monogamous norms are reinforced. On top of all that, the origin of the insult for Ian is rooted in right wingers who felt betrayed, so using their language validates their perspective.

          The real problem with Idubbz is that he’s effectively become a lolcow. He sucks at the PR necessary to be the type of internet personality he’s become, and he sucks for the same reason that he got popular. He doesn’t consider managing perception, only doing what he wants to do. That was fine as a nobody doing edgy shock humor and roasting people online, but that doesn’t work when trying to organize a public event or trying to reinvent his image to be less harmful.

          Just like with any other lolcow, the milked content having an element of truth does not make harvesting it any better. A lolcow could be the worst person imaginable, everything people claim about them could be correct, and it still wouldn’t be ok harass and parasocially analyze a person’s life. Not only is it impossible to help a creator that way, helping the creator is never the point of engaging in lolcow culture. It’s just entertainment at the expense of vulnerable people. It’s best to ignore that shit entirely.

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            23 days ago

            Okay, I don’t call people cucks either. Just pointing out that OP(?) didn’t say that for the reason you were accusing.

            I could make similar arguments about the word “lolcow” reenforcing a predatory content sphere as well as neurotypical ideas of what makes a person respectable. I won’t, of course. That’s just my opinion.

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              23 days ago

              It’s the toxic, parasocial internet communities that define a lolcow, not the person being harassed. The problem was always those who view people as animals for their entertainment. The real freaks were always those who paid to see “freakshows,” not the people they gawked at.

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          23 days ago

          -and more!

          Saw a stream clip where she said he’s too ugly to have children with/bad DNA and he just kinda wriggled uncomfortably in his chair and didn’t challenge her.

          Shouldn’t have watched it really, the only people left watching him are creeps like kiwi farm hate watchers who make those clips and megaphone his dead channel.

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          23 days ago

          something else to add to that list is ian spreading defamation from fuckin Destiny of all people and expecting not go get sued. 😭

          i think the idubbbz not losing himself universe has got to have some awesome shit going on in it rn.

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            23 days ago

            I heard he got sued for quoting something Destiny said, only to get sued by h3, one of the few assholes who is still an ally of Destiny. Ian is a fool for how he handled that and a fool in general, but considering h3 didn’t even sue Destiny for originating the claim, it’s clear the lawsuit isn’t in good faith. His biggest mistake was being a more vulnerable target for Zionists with fading relevance to target than the guy getting personally called out by Benjamin Netanyahu.

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              23 days ago

              Yeah I’m really not sure what his game plan was, or even is to this day. I feel like he could still make a comeback but i really don’t have faith in him like that.

              I hope you don’t still think I’m a chud totallynotjessica cuz I think ur cool 🥺