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And I thought vegans are normally considered to be part of the woke left, at least by every outsider…
Hence the paradox of veganism, according to the right it’s a woke leftist thing. That is until you hang out with woke leftists and they are like ‘yeah, no we don’t support veganism’.
If there is one thing lemme has taught me is that there are a lot of prominent leftist vegans, but leftists in general do not support veganism, but very often are openly anti-vegan.
That’s crazy, I’ve experienced the complete opposite. All the leftists I know either are vegetarian or vegan or are supportive and accepting towards it.
That’s just a mathematical impossibility. A majority of the population identifies as progressive. Vegans are a tiny fringe.
Strictly anecdotal but everyone I know, from leftist to liberal, are positive to others being vegan. They just don’t do it themselves.
That’s not now it works. You can be an ally to queer people while being straight, but you cannot be an ally to vegans while paying for the rape and murder of vulnerable individuals. People who needlessly torture and kill the individuals I love are not my ally, no matter what lip service they pay me.
“I think women should have the right to vote. But not my wife!” “I support child protection laws, but I depend on my kid’s income.” These are not allies! These are merely morally inconsistent people, who we cannot count on for anything, least of all honest self-examination.
An ally gladly cooks vegan, endorses restaurants with good alternatives, eat vegan cuisine.
Everyone has different struggles and priorities. Some people fly, some drive a car, some use LLMs etc. Doesn’t mean they’re evil. For me being vegan is really really easy, and I know that’s not the case for everyone. But I know a lot of people who eat very little dairy and meat because they believe in the cause.
How can you say that cooking a nice meal makes up for killing people I love? That’s insulting. Veganism isn’t about me. It doesn’t matter how they treat me. Treating me well or treating me poorly does not make someone an ally, what matters is how they treat animals.
Someone who is plant based but does not do activism or doesn’t identify as vegan or something, that could be an ally. Someone who murders vulnerable individuals and then tells me they support my cause is literally the oppressor.
I don’t want to be vegan. It has nothing to do with messaging, I just like eating meat. I don’t support the way we abuse animals for food either, but I’m not willing to go vegan over it. Nobody’s perfect. At least I know what I am and can accept that.
Yeah I feel the same way owning a diamond mine. I know I could improve conditions and to be honest they’re pretty horrifying but I just really enjoy being able to buy whatever I want.
Nobody’s perfect, at least I know what I am and can accept that.
I would never support abusing animals.
Absolutely supports abusing animals.
I totally get it! I’m a serial murderer and like, I don’t want people to be hurt or dead but I just like murdering so much. At least I know what I am and can accept that 🥰
I respect your lifestyle, but maybe you can do murder free Mondays? You can stab a hay stack on those days?
