Here come the camps…

You’re a disgrace to the fictional character you have chosen for your pfp.

Right now it seems he’s getting anything he wants. (gestures at OP) I hope there’s an end to that, but until then, yeah, I must angrily conclude, dude gets shit done. (Using the most reprehensible methods, and with shitty outcomes, but that’s what his base voted for, so I’m quite sure they have few complaints right now.)

actually are criminals

Where was this disdain for criminals at voting time?

Once again the orange toddler throws a tantrum and gets his way.

His cult is right about one thing - he gets shit done. It’s horrible shit, but he gets it done.

A tangentially related suggestion for you, if you share my fascination with the context around the art we make (though you are probably well aware if you’re an old-head haha), there’s an EXCELLENT documentary about the LA hc punk scene that was released during its zenith (arguably) in 1981.

Absolutely was NOT aware, but I will check it out!

he most convincing argument I can make to get people to watch it is that the LAPD chief wrote an op-ed demanding theaters not screen it.

Well shiiiiit bro, that was all you had to say!

Thank you very much!

other “classic punk” recommendations include:

I’m really just about the ideal age to have been an OG Punk fan, but at the time my attention was elsewhere, so I’m excited to crib from this list. 🙂

Thank you!

Yess, I’ve been trying to explore punk. Give me punk bands with lyrics I can understand, and who are vocally critical of conservatism and fascism please.

For myself -

• A lot of RATM has floated to the top for me in the past few years. They are in heavy rotation now, and weren’t really for about fifteen years prior to that. The songs you don’t immediately think of when I say RATM have lyrics that are just as true and just as biting. If you like their sound but aren’t familiar with most of their work, this is a good time.

• Brother Ali - particularly songs like Uncle Sam Goddamn

• Dropkick Murphys, particularly most of the Album “This Machine Still Kills Fascists”

• Anti-Flag. I know they have proven to have done some shady things with regard to harassing some women at their shows, but I only just discovered them recently (and learned this about them afterwards.) Unfortunately I like their songs and lyrics. “Victory or Death” comes to mind immediately.

• Public Enemy - By the time I get to arizona, Black steel in the hour of chaos, fight the power (obv), fight the power 2020, really I don’t think they do a song that’s not good for the current state of affairs. Over and over in recent years I have concluded that the hip hop community saw what was and what was coming long before (decades before) the rest of us. I wonder why. 🤔

• Last couple Arrested Development albums. Good tracks off the top of my head “And This I know” “The Meek” “Amazing” “Fire” “Moses” Gotta listen to these, most aren’t going to leap out with the expected energy if you don’t pay attention to the lyrics all the way through. There are others. Their last three albums have a high percentage of gems IMO.

• Really old one by B. Dolan called “Which side are you on?” (loosely based aoround Guthrie song) which is congruent with a lot of today’s issues, though I think it was written primarily in support of this woman. Gonna link it here because I just listened to it again and damn does it slap.

A lot of what I listed above is unsurprisingly posted by me or others in !music@lemmy.world

And the last gasp of our conservatives as the final pillar of the whitehouse collapses into a flaming wreck due to Trumps ridiculous toddler-like mismanagement of everything will be to blame it all on the Democrats.

rip you guys are gonna get couped

Seems to me we got couped. It was just mostly domestically bloodless. So far.

You are correct, I misread what they wrote despite quoting it. Whoops. 🙂

Edit - My mistake, I somehow was blind to the first in-.

In a tolerant society we must be intolerant of intolerance.

No we musn’t. The intolerant have broken the social contract and are no longer extended that latitude.

Huh. You mean like it was a political stunt orchestrated timing-wise for one dictator to reinforce an incoming fellow dictator?

Trump’s order also indicated that his Justice Department may seek to expand the use of the death penalty, so that it can apply to crimes beyond murder. The directive orders the U.S. attorney general to “pursue the death penalty for all crimes of a severity demanding its use.”

Like being trans? Or gay? Or Communist? Or Socialist? Or Democrat?

That’s a fair analysis and hard to say with objectivity. I had and deleted a couple long responses here before realizing I am unwilling to try addressing that to the required level of depth just because I’m too lazy for that much typing.

I also acknowledge that the whole left right thing is calibrated differently over here. 😁

But, relative to my peers at the time, I think I’m not too far off…

Left as a kid, then drifted to center. On track to that point. But then, slow burn left from 40 years old through early 50s, and then a hard sprint left. Conservatives when I was young seemed like bitter dried up out of touch assholes most of the time, and as I’ve become older I’ve discovered they are also bigoted racist misogynist assholes who will suck off any leader who promises to hurt the right people for them.

I don’t think I could possibly live long enough to want to associate myself with those fuckers.

It’s so brave of Harvard to state this fact on INAUGURATION DAY. Fuckers.

It is kind of brave isn’t it? He’s at peak power and they are choosing now to call him out. Strategically it would have been great to do this a few months ago, but I don’t for a moment think it would have made a difference. Maybe if the NYT could have taken a break from covering Biden’s age they could have run it and it might have.

If Trump went on Fox tonight and told every maga to kill the first Democrat they saw, a good chunk would be outside doing it right now, so I’d say publishing a piece like that on the very first day that he takes control of the levers of power is pretty fucking brave, it’s just too little too late.