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I have become more conservative as I grew old, but not the kind of conservative these racist bigoted fucks talk about.
I’m all for personal freedom. Everyone should be given the opportunity to live their lives as they see fit.
The government’s only duty should be to provide equal growth opportunity to everyone regardless of ethnicity, gender, whatever.
Education, Health, Safety (both economic and physical).
“Don’t assume I’ll follow you on your vile path to moral decadence.”
What’s the screenshot from?
I’m a former Trump supporter. I will never support Republicans or MAGA ever again after all they’ve done. So I’ve aged but I’ve become more progressive and open minded, not more conservative.
What changed your mind?
It was Trump’s mishandling of the pandemic that got me started questing things, the rise of the anti-vax among his supporters and the violence that happened after the election. Then over the four years I started to change my mind about more and more things and repeatably realized I was wrong.
Left as a kid, then drifted to center. On track to that point. But then, slow burn left from 40 years old through early 50s, and then a hard sprint left. Conservatives when I was young seemed like bitter dried up out of touch assholes most of the time, and as I’ve become older I’ve discovered they are also bigoted racist misogynist assholes who will suck off any leader who promises to hurt the right people for them.
I don’t think I could possibly live long enough to want to associate myself with those fuckers.
Hear hear
Similar path, but with a more classical libertarian bent (not the bullshit republican that lives weed and is fixated age of consent stuff thankfully). Hard left turn after being disengaged third party about 10 years ago.
Am now old and get more radicalized by the day.
I had a bit of a libertarian phase. It really did just take a moment to really think about the ideas and realize how silly they ultimately are. It does not help that even at their best their outcomes favor the wealthy.
Agreed. While mutual aid is a wonderful idea (and practice), we need a robust functioning government for all sorts of infrastructure and support.
For sure. Tho I am from Texas so most of the Libertarians I learned about were more of the Right Libertarians. Typically some kind of anarcho capitalist. Which has all of the unsavory aspects of not helping anyone and strange “honor” system that no one is going to swoop in and dominate to rebuild our current system (because why would you not)
If you’re American, it could well be that you remained centre the whole time but the US political spectrum shifted below you, so now you feel substantially left.
Or not .
That’s a fair analysis and hard to say with objectivity. I had and deleted a couple long responses here before realizing I am unwilling to try addressing that to the required level of depth just because I’m too lazy for that much typing.
I also acknowledge that the whole left right thing is calibrated differently over here. 😁
But, relative to my peers at the time, I think I’m not too far off…
People don’t become conservative as they age, they become conservative as they accumulate wealth which in the past has typically correlated with age. Once they have wealth they want to protect it.
Nowadays people don’t accumulate wealth as easily so it takes longer before they develop more conservative views if at all.
It’s an “I got mine, screw everyone else” tendency.
I’ve only gotten more progressive as time goes on because of all [gestures vaguely] this.
I am still what’d I’d consider liberal but will admit I’ve gotten a bit annoyed with the Democratic party in recent years.
They’re just so goddamn ineffectual. No way I’d vote for the other side, but holy shit can they please stop it with the unforced errors? Just go back to courting the working class with economics and then lobster them into social change.
I’m 46; the older I’ve gotten the more socialist I’ve become.
I’m gonna be 40 next month and I just keep moving further into anarchism.
Yeah! It is super interesting!
Hand signals and direct voting.
Super hard to filter out the BS though.
That image IS conservative, tho…
Conservationist?
Conservative as in contrary to progress and a return to older ideologies.
Wonder why conservatives are all neoliberal tho? Wonder why history in their books goes back to a certain time and no further?
Ah, yes, all those “Neoliberals” on Hexbear telling people “both sides are bad” and promoting Donald Trump and AfD.
Aren’t slrpnk users supposed to be anarchists? Doesn’t that basically make you libertarians as far as modern policy is concerned?
Anarchists are not libertarians, at least not insofar as Americans understand libertarianism. The so-called Libertarian US party is right-libertarian. Anarchists are left-libertarian. Little-L libertarianism in this case refers to the opposite of authoritarianism.
But not all punks are anarchists anyway.
Neoliberalism however is an economic policy based on the renewal of classical liberalism and free market capitalism. It is a conservative ideology, shared by many Republicans and Democrats alike. Republicanism is based on classical liberalism.
In theory Anarchists aren’t Libertarians, but in practice? They seem to have exactly the same stances: weaken government, deregulate.
Hey no need to downvote, just trying to have a conversation, not a fight.
I’m telling you they don’t have the same stances: one is leftist, the other is far-right. One is anti-fascist, the other is willing to partner with neo-fascists so long as it benefits their self-interest (case in point, Jan 6 insurrection).
Anarchists, like communists, want society to evolve beyond statism because they both see the state as fatally flawed at best and an oppressor at worst. An anarchist is someone who doesn’t need a cop to make them do the right thing. It’s not so much that anarchism is for deregulation and weak government as it for a society where all power is with all the people. In practice, instead of relying hierarchies, such as government as we know it, anarchists use politics like consensus decision-making to form community agreements. Anarchism, in this way, is a development of direct democracy.
Perhaps your judgment against anarchism has to do with encounters with anarcho-egoism and anarcho-capitalism? These two ideologies are incompatible with classical anarchism, which is based on mutual aid. Or maybe you’ve encountered anarcho-primitivism, which I’d agree is perhaps as conservative as it gets lol.
In the interest of vulnerability, I mostly align with anarcho-syndicalism or anarcho-socialism with some hints of post-anarchism to form my theory and practice for how to develop a mutual society that doesn’t require the state.
Have a nice day!
I think the prevailing idea at the time was that you would become more conservative as you accumulated wealth and property, and while I can’t confirm or deny that I would be more conservative if I were as wealthy as my parents were when they were my age, I can attest that the accumulation of wealth and property on which this notion is predicated has not happened for myself and my peers.
Is it any wonder, when told that we will own nothing and be happy by people who have never worked a day in their lives, that we want to burn it all down and piss on the ashes of those who oppress us?
I see memes like this all the time though I’ve never actually heard that outside of memes.
Personally, I used to be more conservative when I was younger and more naive (and being conservative was less vitriolic).
I had a co-worker tell me that if I was a Republican before I was 30 I was heartless and if I was a Democrat after 30 I was brainless. I was 20-something at the time.
I had a civics teacher tell the class that once. He also fed us a bunch of other conservative bs.
Same.
I went from middle (trying to reason with it) to left with:
“Maybe businesses are what saves us because the government continues to fail us” to “Star Trek was a dream scenario. We’re headed towards cyberpunk.”
I believe it comes from misunderstood studies that find out that people tend to become more conservative as they age, but the studies aren’t about the political meaning of conservative, but about our behavior of tending to avoid risks and seek stability as we age.
That’s the lie they told themselves when they found out they were pieces of shit and not being young and dumb.
Makes it palatable.
At least they had an incentive to vote the cons in back in the day, because (I think) the fiscal policy was working for the boomers as they continues to gain wealth throughout their lives. So if they just wanted to fuck over the have-nots, there was at least a reason they could give.
But how can they expect the younger generations to vote for pieces of shit when none of it even gives us more money? They want to be the elites while forgetting that the “bread” that accompanies the “and circuses” is pretty crucial in suppressing the masses. Hungry people start wheeling out the guillotines pretty sharpish if it looks like they’ll be staying hungry.
I think i became more liberal because im no longer an uneducated dumb ass teenager edgelord.
