- cross-posted to:
- firefox@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- firefox@lemmy.world
Seems rather desperate 🙃
used brave for like a year, saved up however much in their stupid coin and when i went to get it, my browser reset how many ads i saw.
Fox around and find out
Guess you’re outside the EU or something? Cause it looks different over here, Firefox isn’t mentioned here. Also they’re at 4.9 instead of 4.7 for some reason. Either way, fuck brave.
no, I’m in Ireland. You have to search for “firefox” for it to come up, but they could have changed it.
Yeah, probably. This morning when I searched for Firefox, I did get a brave ad, as you and others have said. Altho there was nothing anti-firefox in their ad. Now when I search for Firefox I actually get a Firefox ad.
when you search firefox on the play store, there’s a brave ad
True. It’s also there when you look for chrome and other browsers. (Except Vivaldi and opera which have also bought ad space) That’s how buying ads works. Fucked up, but nothing new, unfortunately.
I have been using Brave for the last year and I did like it as a mobile browser. But today I noticed that when I was searching about abortion and etopic pregnancy (fact checking a really dumb article) that all of a sudden their AI crap was throwing “no results available” errors. I checked some other left leaning topics and sure enough it no longer gives you AI results. So I immediately uninstalled that shit from my phone because fuck them.
Is not having AI results really a bad thing?
Not at all. I never wanted to see AI and it kept turning itself back on this was just the final push for me to uninstall it.
I’m guessing it’s more about the clear bias on display, wherein certain topics are suppressed
Given the ceo this shouldn’t come as a shock.
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Iirc, it only comes up if you search for firefox. They could have changed it.
I got the same result, searching for Firefox.
Yup, third confirmation that this shows up as a “limited time event” which I suspect is an ad in playstore if you search for firefox.
This is after searching Firefox on the Apple App Store, same as searching for brave.
I think its just on the play store.
Confirmed
Confirmed. They definitely paid to advertise under “Firefox” searches.
It appeared for me as well. As the second result, under “Limited-time events”, first result was Firefox. What followed below in the “More results” were the rest of the Firefox variants.
Firefox is my main browser, but I occasionally need a Chromium browser for technical reasons. I had been using Brave - note the past tense there. Any suggestions for my new secondary browser?
Secureblue’s Trivalent browser looks promising. Currently the only way to install it outside of secureblue is COPR on Fedora, but I’m sure there will soon be packages in the AUR, Gentoo, Nix, etc.
Other good options are Cromite, Thorium and Ungoogled Chromium
I’ve been using thorium as my secondary browser and it’s been very good. That’s the one I recommend.
Fedora works for me, thanks for the pointer
Here’s the COPR repo: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/secureblue/trivalent/
need a Chromium browser for technical reasons
With a similar use case, after messing around with Brave, then Ungoogled Chromium for a few years, I just reinstalled Google Chrome last month. I literally only need it for making sure webdesign stuff I do works okay in Chrome, and for the extremely rare websites I come across that refuses to work in Firefox 🤷 I didn’t change any settings or install even an adblocker, to make sure I’m testing as close to the “vanilla” experience as possible. I also don’t log into any accounts with it, so I don’t really care if Google sees what I do for that 2-3 page visits / month that I use it.
Ungoogled Chromium flatpak
Ecosia is not bad and they plant trees whenever you do a search:)
I’ve been using Vivaldi
Get yourself a naked chromium from their github. That’s what I do. Least amount of bloat this way.
Use Ungoogled Chromium instead
If you’re gonna get a browser with a brave-like experience, might as well get a Firefox based one like Zen.
How about no
Either Firefox with Arkenfox userjs or Librewolf
I’ve never heard of Arkenfox userjs. Thank you for that.
Librewolf stopped showing my bookmarks bar randomly and never came back no matter what I tried… Switched to waterfox after a while of dealing with no bar.
Looks like that is desktop only
Sadly. It is still in beta though, so it’s still possible for a mobile version in the future. There’s a few discussions on the github asking about mobile support (no responses).
Will there be mobile version for Zen Browser?
At the moment, our team does not have the time or resources to develop Android or iOS versions of Zen Browser. Additionally, we believe that Zen’s unique features, particularly its design around vertical tabs, do not translate well to the mobile form factor. As such, we do not currently have plans to develop a mobile version of Zen Browser.
That’s exactly what I was thinking, there’s nothing in Zen that would add any value to Firefox on mobile.
It honestly might be true
Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy. They could be worse but they also could be way better.
Firefox and Brave both suck a bit in terms of privacy.
Okay, I’ll bite: how does Firefox suck in terms of privacy?
The main problem is the telemetry and targeted advertising.
However, it also could have a bit better defaults from a fingerprinting resistance perspective.
The targeted advertising happens locally in your browser. It doesn’t upload your data to anywhere, so I don’t see how that’s relevant for privacy.
Similarly, I find it hard to imagine that they’d be able to personally identify a person from what they send in telemetry (see
about:telemetry
). I guess, if you install an add-on called “I’m Seymour Skinner from Springfield, USA”, then they could, but even then, worst-case they know when you use the browser…
After installing Brave I was getting some kind of failed login popup in my GNOME desktop environment. Uninstalled it and the popup disappeared. It gave me the heeby jeebies about Brave.
Not to defend Brave, but this sounds like it was just a pop-up for the Gnome key wallet or something like that.
Sure, I just found it too annoying and the easiest solution was to uninstall Brave.
Yeah, it tries to use the keyring to store passwords every time you launch it even if you turned off password saving, the same applies to chrome and chromium browsers in general plus most password managers, tho not always. I tried to troubleshoot it, most forums online suggested to remove gnome key-rings if you are not using them but it kept reinstalling it. This plus brave being slower on mobile made me switch to firefox
Ah so that’s what it was!
Hahahhaah. If they are so desperate they are trying to knock off the 10 or so users on Firefox they must really be in dire straights.
Forget the Lion
I’m not seeing this
it comes up as an ad if you search for “firefox”
I did that. Brave is like 19th on the results list and there’s no “forget the fox” in the app name.
I use Brave for solely one purpose that I hope to see it in Firefox one day. It’s the only app I’ve found that lets you locally download a web video and play it natively on CarPlay. I rarely use it, but it’s handy when I need it.
I don’t get it, is Brave the player? There are no other video players that work in the car?
As of the last time I looked into it, there were no video players that worked natively in CarPlay. If you long press on a video in Brave, you can add it to your “Brave Playlist.” If you set the playlist to download locally, you can play it in the Brave app in CarPlay.
Carplay is an apple thing, so they should be speaking about some ios limitaion
Do you often watch videos while driving? Or am I missing something?
Like I said, I’ve rarely used it. It’s a niche need, but Brave was the only app that did it when I wanted it.