I grew up listening to fundie christian parents babble at length how we were living in end times. And mocking them mercilessly (at first among my fiends, later to their faces) as often as possible.

Now look at us - on the brink of non-existence politically, environmentally, and civilizationally. Not sure that last one is a word.

If they were right I’m gonna have some 'splainin to do.

Dammit.

  • Doug Holland@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Well, they’re not right if they were harping on “Jesus is coming again!” but other than that, I too might owe Mom & Dad and apology.

    More clearly than ever in my life, I can see the end — the end of me, the end of America (whatever that really was), and the end of everything. It’s all so clear, it’s difficult to see anything else, even when I turn away.

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    8 days ago

    Don’t confuse coincidence for causation. For hundreds of years, people have been harping about the " end times." No 'splaining needed friend.

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      More likely hundreds of thousands of years, as long as humans have existed and been able to communicate that to each other.

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    Self fulfilling prophecy. It’s a doomsday cult and they’re trying to bring the end times instead of waiting

    When they said we’re living in the end times it wasn’t a prediction it was a threat

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    If they were right it’s because of their ideology. They are the ones denying climate change and the ones supporting Trump. They aren’t prophets, they are the problem.

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    The oldest human writings are lost to history. But we can be assured that they bitterly complained about the young generation and predicted that the world would end soon.

    Sooner or later, one of the kooks will be right by coincidence.

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    Personally, if I die only to find out that the Tyrant is real, I’ll gladly walk into hell before I kneel my way into heaven. Fuck their narcissistic, cruel, inhuman monster of a god.

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      I would expect in that case “hell” is just a lie anyway, like an abuser telling you you can’t live without them. It’s classic controlling behaviour.

      Realising that helped me walk away from the whole thing: Why are we told hell exists if it isn’t real? Control.

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    If you have the time, I highly recommend the book “American Apocalypse” by Matthew Avery Sutton. Really digs into the history of this whole thing and helps you realize just HOW MUCH of this shit is truly self fulfilling prophecy. I’m currently working up the courage to gift it to my highly evangelical family and forcing them to read it.

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    If the entire world dies for any of those reasons, it’s humanity’s own damn fault. There will be nothing supernatural about it. You won’t owe anyone any kind of explanation.

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    yeah but its all going downhill because of people like them. christians are complicit in the demise of democracy.

    theyre causing their own doom so they can point it out. if they didnt exist, the world would be a better place.

    theres a great meme somewhere where the rapture happens and the world is an amazingly better place for it.

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      8 days ago

      Self proclaimed “Christians” don’t necessarily represent the true beliefs.

      James 1:27

      “Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.”

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          Lmao imagine responding to James, the brother of Jesus’ letter saying “hur hurr hurr, actually, you’re wrong, that’s a no true scotsman fallacy ☝️🤓”

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                Self proclaimed “Christians” don’t necessarily represent the true beliefs.

                Chapter and verse?

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                  James 1. Sure, verse 27, but there are other verses in there.

                  James 1:22-23, 26-27

                  [22] But be doers of the word, and not merely hearers who deceive themselves. [23] For if any are hearers of the word and not doers, they are like those who look at themselves in a mirror; [26] If any think they are religious, and do not bridle their tongues but deceive their hearts, their religion is worthless. [27] Religion that is pure and undefiled before God, the Father, is this: to care for orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.

                  James 2:14-19, 26

                  [14] What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you? [15] If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food, [16] and one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and eat your fill,” and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? [17] So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. [18] But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. [19] You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. [26] For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is also dead.

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        religion is itself a slippery slope greased with fantasy and hope created by men. when their major tomes require interpretation, any meaning useful to the con artist can be derived.

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          99% of different interpretations don’t cause that big of a difference, though. The broad important part of the faith remains the same. Usually the divide is mainly on church governance and management, as well as ceremonies, the science of how covenants work, etc. I grew up in a Baptist church, and it was quite common to have Anglican and Presbyterian ministers preaching there. I have been to Anglican churches where Roman Catholics were preaching and ecumenical services as well. We agree on 90% of stuff.

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            every religion was created by man to control man. to give credence to the slippery slope of divinity is to allow the eventual removal of responsibility from human beings.

            religion is a disease, even if ‘mostly benign’.

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              8 days ago

              That’s a very shallow and uninformed view to how religions start and their origins

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    It was always going to end. And I’d rather be there for it than be born in some other boring and eventless time. Unfortunately, as exciting as times are, I think there’s still quite a while to go and we won’t be around for it. But you can still enjoy all that’s happening now; sure is a lot!

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      Depends on your generation. I’m early gen Z and if I live long enough, I think there’s a good enough chance I will see humanity going extinct

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        Nah, there’s an apocalyptic phase that goes on for a long time and chances of ultimate survival are quite positive. Six billion could perish, making life much easier for the remaining, though there’d be hard times for a few generations during recovery.

        Always look on the bright side of life 😙🎵

        Or, ya know, astroid… Whatever it is, it beats dying of dysentery at age 34.

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    It’s been the “End Times” for the last 2000 years. They were full of shit then and they’re full of shit now.

    Their whole death cult is predicated on the world ending in a violent fiery ocean of blood so that they, the only good people who won’t be damned to a burning torturous eternal punishment, will ascend to a paradise of everlasting Jonestown. It’s sheer insanity. Malicious, cruel, psychopathic insanity.