Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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    6 days ago

    I‘ve been quite tolerant sine now, but this goes to far to leave a mostly left platform.

    Does anyone know if its possible to leave Proton and get my money back, as Im in a plan for a couple of months.

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    19 days ago

    Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?

    Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅

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      18 days ago

      They’ve done other things, but the reason I don’t use Nord is that they had a breach where an attacker had physical access to one of their servers, and they tried to sweep it under the rug rather than notify users.

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        18 days ago

        Fair cop; I guess there’s always risks in renting space in a data centre (physical intrusion), and that response definitely isn’t the best.

        Not enough for me to be a deal breaker currently, but will definitely switch when my plan expires.

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          18 days ago

          Yeah, I don’t blame Nord themselves for the breach, but not notifying users was bad

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      19 days ago

      Unless you never want to torrent, I would say to not use mullvad, you can’t forward a port with them (same with NordVPN). There are plenty of VPNs that don’t log and allow port forwarding. I use AirVPN.

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        19 days ago

        I’ve not encountered any issues filling up my NAS with torrented Linux ISOs via NordVPN?

        My priority for a VPN has just been no logging and the ability to ‘travel’ internationally… so if there the case, no need to rush out and switch then?

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          19 days ago

          https://lemm.ee/post/56692320/18526252

          A connection has to be established. That is only possible if one side has an open port.

          So you can basically not connect to other people with closed ports, which reduces your available pool of people to connect to.

          As long as there are enough people with open ports for you, you and the torrent ecosystem will be fine. But when nobody or very few people have open ports, torrenting simply doesn’t work.

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    19 days ago

    “limited resources” wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn’t like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

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        18 days ago

        Same on Bluesky actually. They can hide comments they don’t like in response to their posts.

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      19 days ago

      This is even more ridiculous given they have a bluesky account and all they need to do is follow the bridge and their content will be ported to mastodon. Literally 5 seconds.

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    19 days ago

    I was an apologist for Proton during the whole Andy Yen commentary mess, but this is a really sus choice for Proton to be making.

    All that matters under capitalism is growth. I wonder if the thinking here is that Proton has already captured all the geek/privacy enthusiast crowd that it’s going to, and Andy Yen’s social fuck-up basically killed any future expansion in that space, so this is part of a pivot to new markets and abandonment of areas they know they aren’t going to win back.

    If so, I’d expect to see Proton making expanded ad buys targeting preppers, libertarians, sov-cit types and other “I’m being watched!!” kooks.

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    18 days ago

    I really dislike these commercial “private” solutions to surveilance issues we have but people always seem to prefer them because of strong marketing around.

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      19 days ago

      People on here like complain and will tell that he has his balls in his mouth when in reality all he did was show some hope after the Republicans appointed someone who has a track record of being anti-bigtech. I still think the way the situation was handled terribly, but to say that he is MAGA would be a hell of a stretch in my opinion

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        19 days ago

        So it came as a surprise last month when Proton CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party in a post on X, declaring that “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” When the tweet went viral, Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”

        show some hope huh

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          Yeah so uh youre proving my point, he’s happy that the nominated person is more favorable to small businesses than the one previously nominated by the Democrats. Wether it’s true or false I don’t know, but this post (and his other posts form before and after the event) to me don’t suggest MAGA

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      19 days ago

      They did, yes.

      I’m assuming the next video to be released will be of the Proton CEO and Trump on on some fetish.

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    18 days ago

    One shitty CEO can destroy a company the same way one shitty president can destroy a country.

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        19 days ago

        Bluesky is WAY better than Twitter. It’s still vulnerable to the same issues Twitter is, but someplace with no nazis is always going to be better than someplace with nazis.

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        19 days ago

        It’s… better in the sense that you don’t have right wing weirdos all over the place. But technically? Organizationally? Feels like we’re on track to replay the same exact shit over again. It feels like people just aren’t learning the lessons they should from the Twitter takeover.

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    19 days ago

    On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.

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    19 days ago

    Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.

    Yet another reason to not like Proton.

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          19 days ago

          Come on, do you really think going to a mail provider located in a country with an intelligence agreement with the US, and with a prominent far-right political party that got the most votes in the recent election could possibly be a bad idea?

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            18 days ago

            The CDU is right-wing but not far-right and they won the election by a significant margin.

            In Switzerland, the SVP has received the most votes every single election since 1999, is further right than the German CDU and shares nearly all positions with the AfD.

            In particular, it wants to stop the influence of the justice system on politics and make every foreigner requesting citizenship dependent on receiving the popular vote in a referendum. Also, unlike the CDU, it opposes gay marriage.

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    18 days ago

    I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

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    18 days ago

    I understand. Why use resources on a platform that is so badly designed for new users that isn’t used but to post manga and linux memes from tech nerds? If this is your reason to drop Proton then you’re priorities seem a bit off imho.

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    18 days ago

    every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it’s valve’s linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

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      18 days ago

      The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz…