Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

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    I was an apologist for Proton during the whole Andy Yen commentary mess, but this is a really sus choice for Proton to be making.

    All that matters under capitalism is growth. I wonder if the thinking here is that Proton has already captured all the geek/privacy enthusiast crowd that it’s going to, and Andy Yen’s social fuck-up basically killed any future expansion in that space, so this is part of a pivot to new markets and abandonment of areas they know they aren’t going to win back.

    If so, I’d expect to see Proton making expanded ad buys targeting preppers, libertarians, sov-cit types and other “I’m being watched!!” kooks.

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    Makes me glad that I procrastinated on switching over, I guess I’ll just ride out my current NordVPN subscription and switch over to Mullvad?

    Almost makes me afraid to ask the community, what exactly is wrong with Nord? 😅

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      They’ve done other things, but the reason I don’t use Nord is that they had a breach where an attacker had physical access to one of their servers, and they tried to sweep it under the rug rather than notify users.

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        Fair cop; I guess there’s always risks in renting space in a data centre (physical intrusion), and that response definitely isn’t the best.

        Not enough for me to be a deal breaker currently, but will definitely switch when my plan expires.

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          Yeah, I don’t blame Nord themselves for the breach, but not notifying users was bad

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      Unless you never want to torrent, I would say to not use mullvad, you can’t forward a port with them (same with NordVPN). There are plenty of VPNs that don’t log and allow port forwarding. I use AirVPN.

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        I’ve not encountered any issues filling up my NAS with torrented Linux ISOs via NordVPN?

        My priority for a VPN has just been no logging and the ability to ‘travel’ internationally… so if there the case, no need to rush out and switch then?

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          https://lemm.ee/post/56692320/18526252

          A connection has to be established. That is only possible if one side has an open port.

          So you can basically not connect to other people with closed ports, which reduces your available pool of people to connect to.

          As long as there are enough people with open ports for you, you and the torrent ecosystem will be fine. But when nobody or very few people have open ports, torrenting simply doesn’t work.

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    Funny how they didn’t make actual post on Mastodon, but just silently edited their profile to say they left Mastodon? That’s pretty cowardly.

    Yet another reason to not like Proton.

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      People on here like complain and will tell that he has his balls in his mouth when in reality all he did was show some hope after the Republicans appointed someone who has a track record of being anti-bigtech. I still think the way the situation was handled terribly, but to say that he is MAGA would be a hell of a stretch in my opinion

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        So it came as a surprise last month when Proton CEO Andy Yen praised the Republican Party in a post on X, declaring that “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” When the tweet went viral, Proton’s official Reddit account posted a now-deleted comment stating that “Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.”

        show some hope huh

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          Yeah so uh youre proving my point, he’s happy that the nominated person is more favorable to small businesses than the one previously nominated by the Democrats. Wether it’s true or false I don’t know, but this post (and his other posts form before and after the event) to me don’t suggest MAGA

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      They did, yes.

      I’m assuming the next video to be released will be of the Proton CEO and Trump on on some fetish.

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      AirVPN is great, allows port forwarding, 5 devices, and they run very good black Friday specials every year if you decide to buy it after trialling.

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    22 days ago

    I was using proton pass but I would like to move on. Is there a good open source password manager that is secure and hosted locally?

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    I‘ve been quite tolerant sine now, but this goes to far to leave a mostly left platform.

    Does anyone know if its possible to leave Proton and get my money back, as Im in a plan for a couple of months.

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    I understand. Why use resources on a platform that is so badly designed for new users that isn’t used but to post manga and linux memes from tech nerds? If this is your reason to drop Proton then you’re priorities seem a bit off imho.

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    every time I hear anything about this shit company, I keep thinking it’s valve’s linux compatibility thingy and I get real confused about why people are hating on it.

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      The lesser company needs to change their name or add a descriptor. Proton Woken? Proton SaaS? Proton Supreme? Proton x GOP? Protonaz…

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    On Mastodon, Proton is held to a higher standard. That’s why they left for the dumb masses instead.

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    Looks like I’m leaving Proton. Fucking hell, not even a year ago I migrated from Gmail

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      SAME! I only just finished getting all my servers and custom domain set up, and I already have to look for a new provider.

      If someone has any recommendations for a good hosted email, VPN and online storage provider let us know. It seems there’s not many good options left.

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      Me too. Same predicament. I was a paid user of Proton.

      Just got moved over to paid Tuta, and it seemed to go smoothly.

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      23 days ago

      Learn your lesson and switch to a custom domain :) that way you will never have to change all your services’ email addresses anymore, when you want to switch mail provider.

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        Yeah, this is gonna be my next move I think. I was using Proton VPN for a while and just recently started migrating my emails there, then they started doing all of this.

        I wanted to self host my email anyway, but now I have no excuse. I’ve been burned by the last team I expected it to come from, I’ll be self-reliant now

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          Most (if not all) domain providers also host DNS for you. After you buy your domain, you’ll need to go to the DNS settings and put some records given by your email provider (records are just made of a “type” such as A, MX, CNAME, TXT, a “domain” and the “content”).

          A .com domain usually costs between 10 and 20 dollars per year. I think it’s worth it! There are many domain registrar you can choose from.

          I personally like Porkbun, it’s cheap and it works great. In the past I used to like the French service Gandi, but it’s been recently acquired by a VC and now it’s gone to the pooper.

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    “limited resources” wtf? just copy and paste the content. I guess they didn’t like the backslash on Mastodon because of the CEO and Trump bootlicker Andy Yen

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        Same on Bluesky actually. They can hide comments they don’t like in response to their posts.

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      This is even more ridiculous given they have a bluesky account and all they need to do is follow the bridge and their content will be ported to mastodon. Literally 5 seconds.

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    I’ve been giving them the benefit of the doubt, but I’m kinda done with them. Anyone have any suggestions for a mail provider? I’m not yet willing to self-host that.

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          Yes, for a reason. You have to register with a name and an address to obtain/buy a custom domain at a third party. Your identity could be traced back via this. This is against their very strict and consistent ‘zero knowledge’ policy.

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            Hmm I don’t agree. You can always sign up using a foreign mail provider with a domain privacy service.

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                1. I register a domain using a service in a country outside of the EU (since Posteo is German).
                2. I also apply a “privacy protection” service, which means my data won’t be visible in the public whois (the domain will be officially registered by the privacy service that I use).
                3. I sign up to Posteo and configure my third-party domain.

                This means Posteo doesn’t know anything about me, and even if the police raids Posteo they can’t find who I am.

                Of course they could, in theory, find out who I am, but that means going to the provider that I used to sign up for my domain, which may be on the other side of the planet outside of German police jurisdiction.

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                  Thanks 🙏, but what you describe is a theoretical option, right? Posteo doesn’t offer to integrate such a custom domain afaik - but please correct me if I’m wrong! Do you use Posteo with a custom domain?

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      It’s sad, I really like their UI

      If you’re afraid of self-hosting, https://mailcow.email/ is pretty great and easy to setup for that if you want to go to this adventure, else, Tuta would be their main competitor but I don’t really like their UI