SF 2589 as introduced - 94th Legislature (2025 - 2026)
www.revisor.mn.gov

This came up in my health care forum.

Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.

This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.

Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.

This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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      2 months ago

      Donald Ewen Cameron’s operation was running from what is today known as the Allen Memorial Institute (AMI), part of the Royal Victoria Hospital, and not to be confused with the non-governmental organization based in Montreal, AMI-Québec Agir contre la maladie mentale.

      Love how Donald Ewen Cameron gets exactly one sentence that doesn’t even describe anything he did, and is listed under the Canada section with zero mention of being funded by the CIA as part of MKULTRA (which also gets zero mention in the article).

      For those who don’t know, Donald Ewen Cameron posed as a normal doctor in Canada and took patients who came in with minor symptoms like headaches or anxiety disorders and put them into months-long comas without their consent to run CIA mind control and drug experiments on, including LSD and electroshock treatments at 30-40 times normal levels. The full extent of his abuse will never be known due to the destruction of records (more details on this page), but many people were severely traumatized with long term effects including, “incontinence, amnesia, forgetting how to talk, forgetting their parents, and thinking their interrogators were their parents.” “Victims often suffered from retrograde amnesia for the rest of their lives and had to relearn most skills they had. Many were in a childlike state and even had to be potty-trained.”

      After conducting these horrific, abusive “experiments” (torture) on innocent Canadians seeking medical help, with US government’s full knowledge and support, Cameron would go on to become president of several different organizations, including the American Psychiatric Association, the Canadian Psychiatric Association, and even the World Psychiatric Association.

      This is literally USA level stuff.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        2 months ago

        Holy shit, what? Good god

        I know all about MKULTRA, but I’ve never been aware of this or anything else that involved Canada.

        Man this country is rotten to the core. The shit that the CIA did with LSD alone constitutes crimes against humanity.

  • ceenote@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    We live in a world where people worship a businessman/politician as the literal second coming of their messiah, but “Trump Derangement Syndrome” refers to people who are critical of a convicted felon who openly ran for office to kill further prosecutions against him

  • salamandermander@lemmings.world
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    2 months ago

    This is literally how the soviet union suppressed dissent in the 80s. Disagreement with the party was legally considered a sign of psychological issues. They did this to replace the gulags.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    At the apex of the pyramid comes Big Brother Orange. Big Brother Orange is infallible and all-powerful. Every success, every achievement, every victory, every scientific discovery, all knowledge, all wisdom, all happiness, all virtue, are held to issue directly from his leadership and inspiration.

    What’s not to love? Of course anyone that doesn’t like this guy would have to be mental!

  • uuldika@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    it’s legislative shitposting/meme magic. one of them gets an idea for the meme: adding “Trump Derangement Syndrome” as a mental illness to troll the libs. it provokes a reaction in us, because it’s 2025 and for all we know the damn thing might pass at the rate the fascists are consuming the state, and the Republicans’ base feeds off of our panic and grief, fueling their schadenfreude. Republican voters are the real trolls; these legislators are just their proxies.

    basically, this is the meme magic formula that took 4chan from “ironic” Nazi trolls to an outright fascist resurgence across the West, that took Trump from a meme candidate to the Oval Office, that took the 51st State rhetoric from obvious hyperbole to deadly serious. it’s “just a joke” when you’re defending it, it’s “just trolling” when you’re pushing it through, and it’s “owning the libs” when you’re executing on it.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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      2 months ago

      As long as you aren’t playing it down (I don’t think you are but not 100% sure) I’m with you. Historically, that’s how we got here.

      Still, it needs to be called out, every step of the way. The more such “troll legislation” passes - possibly unseen - the worse things get.

      Also, there’s no 3- or even more-D chess going on. MAGAGOP is just throwing shit at the wall, not too bothered if something doesn’t stick, but immediately ready to follow up if it does. So let’s make sure it doesn’t.

      • uuldika@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        definitely not playing it down. the whole point of meme magic is that it shifts the Overton window so bills like these can actually pass. it’s a kind of “irony laundering.” they “troll” the Left, the Left raises alarm, the Right keks and calls us hysterical, the Center sees us as crying wolf and tunes us out. the Right pushes the “troll” legislation as far as they can because “it’s just a prank bro,” until we’re weakened enough they can actually pass it.

        it’s like how the Right goads us into calling them “fascists” because they’re literally being fascists, the Right gaslights saying we’re always calling everyone “fascists,” until fascism reenters the Overton window because the Center thinks “fascism” doesn’t mean anything anymore.

        honestly, the Left should have used this kind of meme magic back when Republicans were calling centrist Dems Socialists. if we’d used this strategy as well as the Right did we could be executing Billionaires by now.

        • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
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          2 months ago

          it’s a kind of “irony laundering.”

          I like this. Used to be a “joke”, then something to rally around and get outraged about, then - whoopsie, it’s reality.
          And most people voted for the joke or the outrage, not the reality, as I’m sure even more will find out in the years to come.

          honestly, the Left should have used this kind of meme magic

          Absolutely not. I know it’s “in” rn to say we have to use the same methods, no more Mr Nice Guy etc. but I disagree with that - generally, and specifically with this “meme magic”. It destroys reality, facts, truth.

          There is something to be said for politicians/politics having a better social media presence though, a better sense of humor etc. No need to give up on facts at the same time.

  • Azal@pawb.social
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    2 months ago

    I saw on a conservative discussion group about making “TDS” (Trump Derangement Syndrom is what they’re calling it) an actual entry into psychiatric work. I was wondering where this was coming from.

    There it is.

  • Xanza@lemm.eeEnglish
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    2 months ago

    This is the litmus test for our democracy. If it passes we are so unbelievably fucking cooked.

    • ThinkBeforeYouPost@lemmy.world
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      2 months ago

      We’ve been hurtling past brightline after brightline for decades. Now it is so flagrantly obvious, can it get any more obvious than multiple Goose-step Salutes, but more importantly the propaganda spin to play them off and justify it as not being a disqualifying action. They used to have to dog whistle their zeal for bigotry and xenophobia.

      The question is, what the actual fuck are we going to do about it?

      Organize? Direct action? That magic word that happens when you mash up insurance and male arousal? The DNC would not support or pardon folks involved in that effort, and the corporate media would absolutely vilify it.

      The answer is obvious, with historical underpinning, although we still have to figure out how to “televise the revolution” in this day and age.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    These fucking unimaginative regressive vengeful idiots - they just ripped off ODS and CDS and tried to make it a thing during donvict’s first term, and then, ironically had such a case of BDS under Biden [1].

    Now the bootlicks want to enshrine “Trump Derangement Syndrome” (not a real thing) into law?

    [1] ODS, CDS and BDS are and were actual things on the right, though. They kept claiming that these milquetoast center-right Democratic presidents were tyrannical, were going to take their guns, create death panels, bring about a Marxist regime, that qons were being “censored” (lol), and so on…that’s some serious derangement.

  • casmael@lemm.ee
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    2 months ago

    Oh look it’s incredibly fucked up fascist policy again wow I’m so surprised who could have predicted this ?