Summary

A federal judge criticized a Trump administration Justice Department lawyer who claimed they didn’t have to follow the judge’s oral order blocking deportations to El Salvador because it wasn’t in writing.

Judge Boasberg questioned why the administration ignored his directive to return immigrants to the US. The DOJ lawyer repeatedly refused to provide information about the deportations, citing “national security concerns.”

Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”

  • Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca
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    9 hours ago

    US is fucked. Nobody in US cares anymore, because if they did they’d be out on the streets by the millions.

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    9 hours ago

    Did he suffer any serious consequences, No, then why the fuck wouldn’t he disregard it and will continue to do so in the future. Why are people in power in this country either evil and inept or simply inept against the evil ones

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    1 day ago

    Correct me if I’m wrong but what could the judge even do to these DoJ staff? Throw them in jail for a few days? Trump would just pardon them, wouldn’t he?

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      23 hours ago

      Public/private reprimand is the first step I think. The judge could also probably suspend their license, or possibly influence their getting disbarred if the lawyer fucks up enough. Probably couldn’t throw them in jail unless they were accused of a crime, but that would only be pardonable if it was a federal crime.

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        I’m sure they’ll cry “partisanship”, but put them in jail if relevant. I imagine at least some will be dissuaded by charges and prison even if they can count on a pardon. At least some will be kept out of politics after our four years of hell, even if they can count on a pardon. Even in the very worst case scenario where they get away with everything, legitimate charges will help cement the legacy as the most corrupt president ever.

  • Frustrated, Boasberg ordered sworn declarations explaining what happened, quipping that he would issue a written order “since apparently my verbal orders don’t seem to carry much weight.”

    Written orders probably won’t carry any weight either since he probably can’t read even if he attempted to.

    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I’m waiting for people to connect the dots around my town. People’s rights begin with legislation and end with judicial decision. Being that the bill of rights is being overridden by the executive branch right now, judges have said so and the executive branch is saying they don’t care, it is fairly obvious the bill of rights no longer matters. So pick any amendment you like from the bill or rights, free speech, free press… Right the bear arms. Yup, gone. The conservatives nullified the right to bear arms and is cheering for it. By the time they think they should speak out about it, well they’ll maybe realize they already cheered for the loss of their freedom of speech. Oops

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    I’m just shocked that so many of you are okay with a judge deciding that all those criminals should remain in the US…I mean, this is why ya’ll lost the elections…

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      Imagine that, judges decided on criminals’ fate. Next they will want to decide who is even a criminal.

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      How do you know for sure that they’re criminals, just because they’re not American? None of them have even been charged with anything. Innocent until proven guilty.

      You should be more concerned about the convicted rapist with 34 felonies who is currently in the oval office. Also quit being a racist piece of shit.

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    Show cause why I shouldn’t throw your ass in the klink. That’s what happens to the rest of us if we ignore a court order.

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        so arrest everyone in the department that did it. EVERYONE. secretary of [thing], and everyone who might have so much as seen the command moving down the chain.

        that’s what a law that wasn’t just an excuse to punish poor people would do.

        or just fucking arrest him anyway, fuck it, if laws don’t mean things, laws don’t mean things. that includes his special protection.

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          The more they let them act without any consequences for their actions shows us that the constitution means nothing nowadays. Throw him or the enablers in jail, but doing nothing means checks and balances are useless. I fear for the regular people. Power has gone to the fascists and oligarchs.

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          I don’t disagree with you, but I think we both know how this will play out. Get ready to hide in the attic.

              • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                I wonder how long I’ll survive as an Asian American…

                Asian Americans are the smallest minority in the US, so that’s not looking good. I’m wondering if the so called “Model Minority” sterotype would help (I mean like East Asians, specifically).

                Philly btw. Hopefully Shapiro isn’t fucking spineless like the rest of the dems (doubt), but like the federalism is really the only safeguard left.

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                  Hmm. Do you live in a blue state? I hope so. You might be able to blend. Can you—is this the fucking 90s?—“butch up” for the gestapo long enough to slip away? I’m having flashbacks of the Midwest.

                  For me, I’m a man married to a man. I’m on a list. I’m somewhat nervous about that, but I’m white like milk an own a lot of polos and chinos, so I will have some warning before the shit hits me. Fingers crossed.

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          I’m in the guillotine crowd, so I say “everyone,” but I’m not holding my breath there will be any.

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          Going to amuse me when the left picks up the 2nd amendment they have been talking shit about my whole life and use it for its intended purpose to kill a tyrant. This whole timeline makes my brain hurt

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            You guys are maybe being a little hasty… Many other members of the Trump administration can get forcibly hauled into court even if Trump has “immunity.”

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    So just to be clear, this is within the domain of “constitutional crisis” that the vast majority of Americans who graduated from high school will have certainly been taught about at some point. But precisely zero major news networks or newspapers are calling it as such.

    Evidently a comically dismaying proportion of us unitedstatesians need to be told when our own fucking house is on fire. And even then, 30ish% of us will deny it as the flesh melts off their own bones.

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    He shouldn’t be letting those attorneys leave the courtroom free men. Hold them in contempt and issue bench warrants for administration officials and anyone carrying out these illegal orders.

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      This is the only correct response, any other response means that the federal government does not in practice have checks and balances

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        It also forces Trump’s hand. Either publicly reveal, right now that he is an all-out dictator instead of slow-rolling it, or fold and lose any momentum he has.

        If a violent revolution is needed to take him down, the sooner everyone knows about it, the better.