Yes please, I will vote to support this.
Pretty please yes! I would love to leave to US for the EU. But that hop across the water is very difficult for me to afford.
Don’t all member states have to vote us in? Can’t see that happening.
Another rich country paying membership fees. Why not? (Ignoring general bureaucratic problems)
As a Canadian, we promise to bring cake (and a shitload of natural resources) to the next meeting.
Fuck your cake. Fuck your natural resources. Fuck your bilungualism, affable manner, vast wildernesses and extensive waters. Keep them. We don’t want them.
WE JUST WANT THE POUTINE.
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Would you like extra gravy with that?
Especially with Hungary’s russian asset in command (yeah, we also have a Trump in Europe…)
Orban has to vote for Canada. Why? His regime will be over in 14 days if he does not get the EU money. Orban’s biggest rival is in first place according to the latest polls. If he wants to be re-elected, he cannot sabotage EU policy.
I’m not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it’s some sort of gotcha. It doesn’t mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.
The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.
It’s not about being a “gotcha” - it’s about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.
You’re right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:
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Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.
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Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it’s “too complex” or “un-Canadian” becomes much harder to maintain.
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Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.
The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don’t extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.
The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.
I get what you are saying, but the UK joined the EU with FPTP voting and left the EU because of FPTP. So while I agree that exposure might change things I do doubt it.
From all I’ve having lived in a couple of countries in the EU (including the UK), exposure to Proportional Vote in the EU Parliament Election seems to have zero impact on people wanting it for other election, maybe because EU MPs are too far away from most people and don’t really get all that much news coverage, unlike the national politics of a country.
Mind you, personally exposure to Proportional Vote when I was living in The Netherlands has definitely made my mind in favour of it, especially after I moved to Britain and was exposed to their shit-show FPTP voting system (worse than my own country of Portugal which as multi-representant electoral circles, so way less Democratic than PR but nowhere as bad as FPTP).
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A lot of people don’t get it until they see it in action.
My union recently had a vote about increasing health benefits. “No” won in one of the categories because there were 3 options for how much to increase it by. (Yes won by 76% while the no beat the top yes 24% to 23%)
I pointed this out at the next meeting and we had a vote and struck the no vote. Later a bunch of people said thanks for pointing that out, and my reply was “no sweat, we have the same problem with our elections.”
Then everyone applauded and Einstein gave me a piece of π. Just kidding, it was more like weird looks and a couple agreements, but I like to think I brought the issue to a few people’s attention.
There would be voting changes , I believe, something about EU membership requiring a certain type of voting system. Eg. Not FPP
Hungary’s system is half proportional, half FPP on steroids, but it’s just as bad as FPP since our FPP lets the winner not just take the seat, but also extra votes into the proportional part of the race.
So, no, the EU is fine with everything, the only thing is that EU citizens have to be able to vote in local elections wherever we live, regardless of citizenship. That means if you join, and I rent a place in Toronto and move in, I get a vote for the Toronto mayor on day one.
Because it’s a step towards proportional representation. It would expose much more of the populace to how it’s done. Hopefully getting more people used to the idea of it.
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Any reasons why these two neighborhoods go against the grain? Are they the posh suburbs?
As someone from a South Jersey suburb of Philly: take me with you!
No, you guys know what you’ve done
#28thnever51st
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I (from yrp) would absolutely love this <3
Is Canada having issues with sovereign autonomy? Why even sit at the table?
Washington, Oregon, and California as Canada’s 12th province. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and the northern 20% of Illinois and Indiana as the 13th.
I only hear Americans pitching this idea. Canada doesn’t want any of the states haha
I’m Canadian, I don’t hate the idea.
In any case, it’s clear that the USA is less “United” these days… It’s more just … The States of America now.
There’s like a lot of shitty people even in those states. I love Washington but no thanks.
Idk. I haven’t met enough people from any of these states to have an opinion.
Which is all part of the EU. Sign me up
Türkiye is gonna be pissed.
Türkiye needs to get rid of its Erdoğan problem then.
Why not? I would vote yes to allow Canada into the EU.
Wouldn’t mind it one bit
How about the US just becomes provinces 14-64? I’ll gladly take anything else.
You want more convoys? Ingesting the US will give you nothing but cancer. If it’s not a city or a suburb, you’re just absorbing indoctrinated fascism. It’s pervasive.
Yea, I’ll take the top 20.
Mexico can take the bottom 30
Nah sorry we’re not taking the red states. They can be their own Christofascist hell elsewhere.
make a list of the ones y’all want we can work out a deal
So just all of new england, the pacific northwest and California.
California already goes to Denmark though
Can I raise you the proposal of Canada and Jesusland
Indeed, I like that map.
Alaska needs to be integrated though, don’t want another Kaliningrad.
Good point, but it’s an F’n red state.
this looks like a dragon head with cat / dragon torso and cat legs
We have already rejected Morocco because of geographical reasons…
Still have Australia and Israel so
Eurovision Song Contest, European Union, whats the difference?
It’s the same picture.
Lol I wasn’t aware they applied to EU, fair call
But Cyprus is already in. And really, how sure are we that was the real main reason?
Failing that, we’ll just have to slum it with Norway and Switzerland.
