• tacobellhop@midwest.social
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    28 days ago

    Man a shitty lining to this cloud is the kids that had to mine the lithium for the batteries into useless cars.

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      27 days ago

      It’s a step in the right direction. It won’t stop the countries we exploit from being exploited. But if Tesla goes bankrupt it is one less large company exploiting the global south. And arguably the worst when it comes to Cobalt.

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      28 days ago

      I think you’re thinking of Cobalt? Lithium mainly is mined in big industrial facilities in Australia and Chile. Not like cobalt wich was in the news for being mined by hand, including with children.

      However “new” Lithium Iron Phosphate (LFP) batteries go without cobalt and other rare earth materials (not actually rare btw). Most electric cars use these batteries nowadays including many Teslas.

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      27 days ago

      As an owner of both, my 2020 Ioniq BEV easily feels better than my previous civic, and my Subaru (though I’d want the suby for anything challenging terrain-related). Best car I’ve owned.

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    28 days ago

    That’s actually the face your Insurance company make when their claim adjuster reviews the Tesla ‘Sentry Mode’ footage.

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      27 days ago

      Yeah DO NOT commit insurance fruad. It’s a really bad idea. You will get caught. There’s about 100 different ways to get caught and you won’t figure out half of them, and what’s worse is that the money will point REALLY big red arrows at you and if you can’t defuse that attention, your doing time.

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          27 days ago

          Ask a friend, easy peasy. Just make sure you say it in person away from any device in a backyard or in a park.

          *This is not legal or illegal advice…

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                  27 days ago

                  That’s just how it works; Elongated Muskrat literally had fraud investigations and fired the people investigating him, he still spends that fake money 💀 Trump also had fraud charges, should be in prison, still spends that fake money.

                  Be for real dude, the average Joe would be in prison even with the best lawyers. My comment was satire of what to do to screw to system, but you don’t recognize satire so let me be clear; no, the average Joe can’t get away with this shit unless they are the luckiest mf alive, which is why my comment was said in humour lol

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    28 days ago

    I hate Musk, Tesla, and cars in general. (I like trains). But I also dislike people who are wasteful, destroys things like everything is replaceable without any harm done. I also dislike people who are dishonest for their own benefit. This is not helping built a better future. It’s dishonest and destructive. Lose lose.

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      27 days ago

      You must like in a country or downtown area with good public transport. Go outside the main cities in America and you’re stranded without your own car.

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        Tbf there’s a pretty good chance their entire country is the size of one of our states. The server suggests Netherlands which is like half the size of West Virginia, for example.

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          27 days ago

          Yup, Netherlands and public transport is pretty good here. As well as towns, including mine, are walkable/cyclable.

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            Yeah, I figured. Unfortunately the entire world isn’t as densely populated as Amsterdam, so public transit of that level isn’t always possible. For instance, NL, the entire country, is 1/2 the size of WV the state alone. And the pop of NL is 17,722,333, and the pop of WV is 1,769,979. So to reiterate, your country of 17 million people is smaller in area than one of our states containing 1 million people.

            Maybe try leaving your safe little bubble occasionally.

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              27 days ago

              Sure in some rural places possibilities for public transit are limited. But in the US most people live in cities and they could very well have decent public transit, it’s a political choice to not invest in trains. .

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                  I’m not saying cars don’t serve a purpose in sparesely populated areas, like West Virginia. They do. But cars are overused in places where public transit would be a thousand times more efficient, like big cities. Also, trains are perfectly suitable to cover large distances. I happen to go on holiday to Italy next week and I do it solely by train. And Europe doesn’t even have good high speed raillines. Perhaps less so than the US, but Europe also neglects public transit in favor of the car lobby.

    • LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee
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      27 days ago

      Have you seen the stock price? I wouldn’t say it’s wasteful at all. I’d say it’s achieving exactly what it’s set out to do.

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        27 days ago

        If it’s trying to get Tesla to go bankrupt, I highly doubt that will happen. And I also don’t really see what it achieves except for annoying Musk.

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      27 days ago

      There is a whole bunch of regulatory stuff that’s been spun up for EVs over the past 7 years or so.

      I have no idea if Hyundai had something out of the ordinary happen, but the public is generally very slow to change and are a bit hyper vigilant. Add in the fact that the press loves a good boogieman to get clicks and you’ll see some of the EV mess.

      Are they safer than ICE? Yes. Should that stop there? No.

      With an average of 16 EV and hybrid fires per year, there’s a 1 in 38,000 chance of fire. There are a total of roughly 4.4 million gas- and diesel-powered passenger vehicles in Sweden, with an average of 3,384 fires per year, for a 1 in 1,300 chance of fire. That means gas- and diesel-powered passenger vehicles are 29 times more likely to catch fire than EVs and hybrids.

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        Hyundai and Kia always has something out of the ordinary happen. My model was an ICE with two major flaws: one meant that the engine was liable to catastrophically fail and catch on fire at around 90k miles, and the other made it so stealing them was literally child’s play. Kids were making TikToks on how to steal them…

        Hyundais just aren’t good cars. They cut corners to the max, and when shit goes south just try to gaslight everyone involved. I’m highly skeptical that their EVs are high quality, because their ICE models were shitboxes.

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    28 days ago

    What a weird wet dream. Teslas are stacked with cameras, they’d never get away with it.

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      27 days ago

      Yeah that’s why they’ve caught every single person that’s set fire to a Tesla. /s

      Do people think Teslas are equipped with cameras that can see through masks?

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        it’s actually hilarious how few would be crimestars dont know how facial rec software works. cover your ears and eyes, and them go do something other than what the stupidest people on the planet are doing, that causes the policy enforcers to come up with better more depraved ways to sodomize us. you worthless shit parrots, do deserve an animal’s prison address

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          Google says 3 people from the same incident. I can’t find any other cases of people being caught. It also had nothing to do with the Tesla cameras.

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            4 Federal charges so far, 3 from one incident, one from another, along with at least one man arrested on-scene for keying a Tesla. Others who are keying Teslas are all caught on video, so we’ll probably see more arrests in the future.

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      27 days ago

      If I’m paying for comprehensive coverage and they don’t cover my car burning, I am absolutely suing.

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      27 days ago

      They will cover vandalism if:

      A) You report it to the police and have a file number

      and;

      B) You have comprehensive coverage

      But your insurance rate will increase due to having a claim

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      27 days ago

      Oh you REALLY need to call up and see if they will cover it. They will fight you like hell on this kind of situation.

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      I retired during Covid, but until then I drove mercedes. When I needed a new car, the new Merc dealer wouldn’t even let me onto the lot, telling me he couldn’t get a car for me for 12 months. Turned out, the only new car I could get immediately, was a Kia Sportage, and that was only because someone failed a finance application. That car was actually awesome, never a single problem, but I decided I didn’t like all the screens because always fingerprints, so I sold that and bought a Hyundai because I had already gone through the tech learning curve (Kia and Hyundai are the same). That too, has been trouble free all the time I’ve had it, and I’m about to trade to another Hyundai. Converesely, here in Australia, I hear about Honda’s being crap. I think Korean cars, actually made in Korea, are actually great cars. You Americans mostly get models made locally, which to me sounds like the problem. What you are saying, is American made is shitty.

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      They aren’t terrible cars. I had a Hyundai and it ran well. Just didn’t throw an oil light for me. Engine seized. My own fault really, but lasted like 180k

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      28 days ago

      The best car to get is one where the engineers actually thought of maintaining the thing over looks