• And009@lemmynsfw.com
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    2 days ago

    My puppers love elevators. They wag their tail in approval whenever we head up to the roof and the ride is uplifting.

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    Dogs don’t have much in the way of spacial reasoning or logic, possibly due to over reliance on smells and sounds for navigation.

    When the doors open and things look different they might be surprised but they quickly forget what the previous floor even looked like. It’s as bewildering or thought provoking them as simply turning a corner would be. They don’t understand it enough to even be bewildered.

    That said, there are interpersonal difference to dogs, some of them might be more than smart enough to get quite confused.

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      There is a documentary about dogs in some city using public transit to get around. Pretty sure that they remember where they are or were to some extent.

      Not to say that they understand elevators. It’s probably just another room or hallway.

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        I’m sure they understand that the bus moves due to the many many windows and can take them to a specific place, but they could still just be navigating by scent and other factors. It’s not a good comparison to an elevator.

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          My only point was that they are remembering where they are or were. They didn’t forget everything because they turned a corner.

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      My dog loves getting on busses and the tube. I think he just finds it exciting to see where we’ll appear, it’s pretty great, until you’re not paying attention and he jumps on a random bus.

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    My dog loves the elevator, definitely cant tell the difference since both floors are the same, keeps going to our downstairs neighbors door like its our own before smelling it and realising her mistake.

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      I mean… I also went into my neibours apartment a couple times by mistake.

      Looking at my dog, I think he understands elevators. Maybe not that why it goes, but probably does that it goes. Sometimes I think animals have better spatial awaerness then humans.

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        Some do, many don’t. Humans are actually really graceful compared to most animals and intuitively do very complex things in space. Tossing a paper ball into a garbage can from ten feet away is an almost uniquely human ability. You ever see a dog try to fit a long stick through a narrow door? Their ability to judge relative sizes and distance is terrible, comparatively.

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          I have seen too many videos of small monkeys and big apes throwing their dong to agree with your paper ball theory. Also frogs don’t throw balls but are great at catching insects, a lot of other animals have great spatial awareness when it comes to hunting prey. But tbh, I doubt wether they could grasp the concept of a box going up and down like humans do.

          Have seen too many videos of dogs trying to take long sticks through narrow doors to disagree with you there though. Personally I think dogs are just not that smart after all that (in)breeding we did. I’m not calling dogs stupid, don’t want the world to dislike me.

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            Frogs and archerfish and chameleons and such have evolved to do that one thing, it’s more like a preprogrammed algorithm than spacial awareness. And they miss a fair amount if you sit and watch them, that just doesn’t make the Animal Planet highlight reel.

            Speaking of highlight reels, that kind of confirmation bias also applies to poop-slinging monkeys. They literally don’t have the musculature for fine control, they just throw a lot of shit.

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    Will Smith: “Can a dog compose a symphony or paint a great work of art?”

    Incarcerated robot: “Can you?”

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    I was at a festival years ago and a couple was sat next to me with a dog that looked like a German Shepherd cross that was clearly on edge, looking around at the crowd walking by. Then a guy with a kid on his shoulders came near. All you could see at first was the guys shoulders and the kid’s head above his. You couldn’t see the kid’s legs because the guy had his arms wrapped around them. The dog jumped up and started barking its head off at them. Until they got to the point where you could see them side on. As soon as the dog realised what was going on it immediately stopped barking and sat back down. I’ve often wondered what that dog thought was going on at first.

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    I don’t believe any of the 3 dogs I’ve had were ever in an elevator. Never thought about that before.

    But while vacationing on Maui for a few weeks, toward the end my 4-yo daughter asked, “When are we going back to the real world?”

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      I hope you told her that consensus reality is a social construct and the real world doesn’t exist outside of being an agreement by society to promote certain values and interpretations.

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    People have to stop acting like animals are the stupidest most thoughtless creatures.

    Yeah, most dogs probably understand it perfectly fine because it isn’t a great mystery. They go in a room, they feel the acceleration, they feel the deceleration, they go out.

    Sure, first time they are probably confused, but they are not completely oblivious to the world around them.

    Also, yeah, this post is funny

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      In a few centuries, provided we don’t nuke ourselves into squiggles in sandstone, I look forward to personhood being extended to our canine, feline, bovine, equine, avian, reptilian, marsupial slaves and neighbors. It seems absurd that homo Sapiens is the only species with interesting stories to tell.

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        Non-avian reptiles have very little going on in there with very few exceptions. Dogs, some corvids, some parrots, pigs, cetaceans, apes, maybe octopuses, and probably more but that’s the spread that comes to mind: I can see “personhood” being applied. I love animals but I’m drawing a line and the average cat isn’t on the same side as me and they’re well above average in terms of reasoning and emotional capacity. Something can have personality without being a person.

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      Tbf people act like people are the stupidest creatures too. Especially historically speaking.

      “How in the world could these complete and utter dumbasses figure out how to build giant piles of dirt in a specific shape? It must be aliens cause there is simply no way those idiots could figure that out on their own.”

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        There is obviously a lot of questions on how but I think the more interesting angle is why? Yeah humans at any stage in life could probably figure out how to stack these massive stones to create a few hundred meter tall structure. But the effort involved to do so must have needed some extraordinary reason, especially when you learn that the quarry they mined the stones from was 100s of kilometers away.

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          For the same reasons humans have done things throughout history. Worship, art, glory, vanity

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        Idk if it’s just a trope, but there are allegedly people so into the conspiracy wondering if they were built from the ground up or the tip down. 😅

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    There was a Fraggle Rock sketch about this with the Explorer guy

    Speaking of which can you watch fraggle rock anywhere today? No? Ok fuck Disney 🏴‍☠️

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      You make me want to watch Fraggle Rock again. Apparently it’s on Apple TV+ and they made new seasons. Or, you can find it the other way…

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    I know there are dogs that understand how to use the subway, which is basically a horizontal elevator.

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    1. Animals understand the world in a lot more detail and depth than we give them credit for. We get caught up in a lot of big brain nonsense, some of which is useful sure, but a lot of the basics, they’re well on top of. They’re not stupid, they just don’t have language or hands.
    2. I feel like a lot of human stuff is just total incomprehensible magic to cats and dogs. Cats clearly think humans can change the weather, or it might be different weather at a different door. Because why wouldn’t it be? You guys control the light switches and the doors and cars and stuff. Why would the weather be different? There’s stuff in my domain and then all the world change stuff is your domain. It’s cool, we can still be buds.

    Idk man, pick one.

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      Some animals are truly more equal than others. Years ago we had a really smart horse. (And those of you who have been around horses much do know what an oxymoron that is.)

      So this cat moves in. She was one of those that just moved in, no chip and no other luck finding her home. And she was pregnant and made a little nest and had her kittens.

      And the smart cookie of a mare that I began this with made sure that we knew where the kittens were.

      Then there’s the normal horse experience where there’s been a rock close to road for years. Then on one random occasion the rock is an apex predator.

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        Reminds me of when my puppy first noticed a light fixture on a ceiling and proceeded to stare at it like, “What the fuck is that?”

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        I didn’t understand that last paragraph.

        What did the horse do to let you know about the kittens?

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          On the last paragraph: it is quite common for a horse to be perfectly comfortable on a particular route. Be it from stable to field or on regular riding track. And after half a decade something that has always been there is just unbearably scary for them. A rock, a fence post, a post box, literally anything.

          And on those kittens - horses are quite elaborate on their body language. That cat had made her nest behind the wall of said horses stall. Behind that stall was an area mostly relegated to tools - wheelbarrows and shovels and such. Said mare was also extremely interested in food, when something is more important than evening meal it raises eyebrows. First thing that comes in mind on situation like that is illness.

          But that time she was clearly healthy and happy. Every time we’d get close by she was neighing and pointing with with her head. And sure enough, there was a nest behind the wall and sure enough the cat and those kittens needed a bit of help.