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It’s the usual rename and replace that Microsoft love to do.
“OneNote for Windows 10” is going to be replaced by “OneNote for Windows”
Why they always do the kill, rename and replace instead of just replace with an update? Each kill&replace operation leads to lost users…
Sadly OneNote is one MS where I don’t think there are any good alternatives.
They’re only killing the crappy store/UWP version that nobody used anyway and only caused confusion. The normal OneNote bundled in Office isn’t going anywhere as far as I know.
That said, I’ve moved a lot of my note taking to Obsidian. It’s not a perfect replacement but it’s a fantastic markdown editor and now I use both for different use cases.
It was a really good app for quite a bit and had the best inking experience compared to the non-UWP version. A few years back they announced merging the features to the Win32 version and it has since been more or less on par now.
I’ve found Joplin acceptable.
…have you ever used OneNote? It’s a handwriting app.
I use OneNote quite frequently at work, it’s so much more than a “handwriting app”.
It’s so much more than a “handwriting app”…
And yet it is still a handwriting app. Joplin does not support handwriting.
I use Joplin and OneNote, on an MS Surface. OneNote handles hand writing great, but it’s also just a notes app that works great with typing and pictures and everything.
Obsidian with self hosted live sync is what I switched to and found it’s actually better.
They’re just moving to the app store version.
I really liked OneNote.
This is not to be confused with the application called “OneNote”, that’s staying.
You can always trust Microsoft to make two version of the same application and to have really bad naming.
Which is sometimes called Onenote 2016, bundled with Office. I think. Pretty sure there’s a third version too.
And it’s a web/Electron app anyways. At least the O365-connected version is.
The OneNote Microsoft wanted to discontinue in favor of the Win10 OneNote a few years ago is staying, so they can axe the Win10 OneNote.
From 2018: https://rcpmag.com/articles/2018/04/19/onenote-desktop-app-sunset.aspx
How do I know which one I’m using? Are you talking about the windows store one (tablet one) being the one that’s discontinued while the one that’s bundled with o365 (desktop version) being continued?
That’s correct.
Thanks.
You can always trust Microsoft to make two version of the same application and to have really bad naming.
And to make bad naming worse naming, since they switched Office’s name to 365 Copilot, not to be confused with 365 (office premium), Copilot (ChatGPT interface), or Copilot (Office text assistant). Office was a perfectly serviceable name they’d used for decades. It’s like Twitter rebranding themselves to a single latter like Y. Why would they thrownaway branding like that?
People are liable to look for office, not find it, and go "oh, Microsoft doesn’t sell Word any more ☹️’
Their enterprise products as well. Azure is now Entra, all the admin page rebrandings like defender, purview, intune, the URL changes, etc.
Please just stick with a name already!!
Ms flow vs power automate… It’s like they’re not even trying anymore. And that’s pretty much what it is. Monopolies stifle innovation and development.
Yes, that one too! smh
Jack made HBO into Max. Lost all that recognition and fan support for what? Like I’m convinced more and more each day that rich people are just plain stupid.
That right there might beat Microsoft and Google name changes combined
Azure is not Entra. AAD became Entra. They did it because AAD was becoming less about Azure and covering more things than directories. So a rebranding made sense.
It’s a pretty dumb name, though. It doesn’t really mean much when you hear it, and it sounds too similar to other common words.
I got so sick of their shit. I think there were two Teams and Skype versions too. Wtf is their problem?? I just stick with LibreOffice for everything now, but eyeing OnlyOffice because of their cloud service.
Yes, there was Teams (classic) and Teams (new. There’s also Outlook (new) and Outlook (classic).
There was the Snipping Tool and Snip & Sketch, it even said they were getting rid of Shipping Tool, but then they got rid of Snip & Sketch instead but the function of Snipping Tools is the same as Snip & Sketch.
OpenOffice is unmaintained, unfortunately (see the LibreOffice page explaining this); LibreOffice considers officially hosting a cloud service out of their scope but Collabora does provide hosting (and you can self-host, of course). Their “Development Edition” is the free version that doesn’t come with an SLA.
but eyeing OnlyOffice because of their cloud service.
… oh damn, I didn’t catch that at all. First time hearing about them. (looks like the all caps thing is canonical too)
I guess they’re completely unaffiliated with LibreOffice? looks like their product is intended to feel as close to Microsoft as possible
looks like their product is intended to feel as close to Microsoft as possible
Maybe that’s why they picked a name really easy to mistake for another office software suite, to mimic Microsoft’s atrocious naming schemes :P
Hell, just talking about teams in Teams is confusing enough.
Are you talking about Teams in Teams for Home or Teams for Work and School, and is it Teams or New Teams you mean?
I… I didn’t even know there were so many.
Or an Office 365 Group
Not to be confused with SharePoint groups
Fuck sharepoint to hell and back
Teams (Classic), actually.
TwoNotes
Two apps, OneNote.
Would
Go outside and touch grass, my dude 😂
Not grass, gonna touch thing ass
Hey, funny thing is that I had it for breakfast! Yeah, I had one note for breakfast today! And coincidentally, I replaced one note in my car’s battery after running a 5mile one note.
I use it all the time
While OneNote for Windows 10 still has roughly half a year, Microsoft will start nagging users with update prompts much earlier. For starters, in June 2025, Microsoft will slow down the app’s sync performance, thus forcing customers to ditch the old app, especially those using OneNote on multiple devices or for real-time collaboration.
Next, in July 2025, banners will make their way to OneNote for Windows 10 to make sure users are aware of the upcoming end of support. Microsoft says these banners “could impact users workflows.” You do not say, Microsoft.
Wait. You’re gonna throttle them and then wait a month to tell them why you’re throttling them? What?
Thats so shitty
Microsoft is working hard to get you to transition to a Linus Distribution. Thank you microsoft for your hard work and dedication.
People will never switch. I see at my work how colleagues just learn how to accept the endless shit without even reacting to it anymore.
Every time Netflix raises prices their subscriber numbers jump. There are people out there who pay for Netflix with ads.
Like US politics… 🤮
I have some niche software for my racecar I can’t seem to get to run on Linux and it’s the only reason I’m still on Windows. Although now that I’ve finally got a new desktop, I can dual boot again.
Oh and I run a few games via the Xbox app so that kinda keeps me on there as well.
I have a copy of Techstream for my Toyotas that will only run on Windows. My laptop is set up to run it inside an XP VM with USB passthrough. Works just fine that way.
Looks like I made a good decision deciding to move from onenote to obsidian last month. I like that it is a fancy mark down editor so I can just move my text files some where else if I decide to not use Obsidian in the future. When it comes to onenote functionality of being able to draw or paste where ever I want the excalidraw plugin which is open source has met my needs.
Been nice to move to something that is multi platform.
Obsidian is a fancy markdown editor with metadata, sync, indexing, data querying and views and a lively ecosystem of plugins. It has everything except being open source.
It would be incredible to have a self hosted web UI but that’s a tall ask. Instead I’ve been using Quartz to generate a static site from hot reloading which seems to cover this end to a degree.
I use QOwnNotes. It is open source and works with nextcloud/owncloud, files are stored in plain text so if you wanted to switch to something else it should be pretty simple.
Obsidian ftw
Neowin is the web site where their writers can stupidly claim that Qt getting an advertisement module means that KDE will have ads in them soon.
Stop linking to them.
Do you have more info about the source? I currently know nothing about neowin or qt, and only a little about KDE. Are other Linux news sources debunking that article?
Phoronix, It’s FOSS, Linux Journal, NixCraft, and OMG! Ubuntu are my sources.
Everyong recommending Obsidian in the comments, where are Logseq users?
I stopped using it since they keep not updating the electron version they are using. It took them forever to update after electron 28 went EOL and they updated to a version that would go EOL about a week later, which they have been on ever since…
Edit: They just bumped to a supported version, but only in master. It’s still unknown when a release with a supported electron version is coming.
Can’t you reinstall it? Or install an older version? Obligatory fuck Microsoft.
I’m very interested in OneNote alternatives. I’ve been using OneNote for longer than I’ve disliked Microsoft… and I still think it’s a good app. Pretty much the only thing I don’t like about OneNote is the increasingly close integration with Windows accounts. I’d rather my notes were not scanned and uploaded and processed by a US mega-corp…
Anyway, people keep suggesting stuff like Joplin. But that isn’t even vaguely close to OneNote in terms of stylus and inking. For me, inking is the main core feature. And so in terms of alternatives, xournal++ is a closer fit. (xournal++ has essentially no organisational structure for notes; but it is really great for inking.)
What I’d really like is basically the organisational structure of Joplin (or whatever other alternative) + the inking power of xournal++. And ideally being able to import my vast amounts of handwritten OneNote work! – But that last bit is probably too much to ask.
I’ve been using Any.type for a bit over a year, and am very happy with it, but I don’t believe it has hand writing support.
There is a free tier that includes 1gb synced storage (optional).
It’s open source. Somewhat similar to Obsidian, but no plugin support that I’m aware of.
I switched from OneNote a couple of years ago.
For hand writing i suggest using Rnote and for normal keyboard writing I suggest Joplin. Keep it synced using cloud provider or using Syncthing for free.
About organizational structure in Rnote I unfortunatelly recommend just saving files in a structure of folders. Rnote is the most polished alternative to hand-writing capabilities of OneNote I’ve found :c
About importing notes. I don’t think that’s possible but you can surely export them all to PDF from OneNote. I did that when I migrated.
Thanks for the suggestion. I’ll check out Rnote sometime soon.
(As I said, I do like the writing & drawing features of xournal++; and so I’ve been doing a bit of basic file / folder organising with that already; but it certainly isn’t as easily browseable as OneNote.)
Joke is on them, I moved all my notes to Joplin 😎😂
