But… this has already been debunked? I guess it’s all back and forth. Who knows, who cares.
Edit: nvm this is 4weeks old. It should be well known by now.
They’ve also cut PEPFAR. PEPFAR is a program which, among other things, provides antiretrovirals to people with HIV/AIDS in poorer countries. Approximately twenty million people, including half a million children will now start to slowly die without access to these drugs.
For comparison’s sake, Hitler killed 13.6 million people. History is very likely to end up remembering Trump as the single deadliest regime in history.
That’s some Heritage Foundation level of undercutting Hitler’s death toll.
The money THEOR PARENTS PAID INTO AND WORKED TOWARDS. They are literally entitled to it. It is their parent money!!!
Elon after labeling orphans as fraudsters and taking away their survivor benefits that they are entitled to and deserve: “God, I just sniffle I don’t understand why people hate me crocodile tears”
well then it is settled he is the embodiment of orphan crushing machine
Need to see a better source than a tweet that I can’t find.
I can’t find any sources or reporting on this. Not to say it’s not happening but can’t even find some dumb Musk tweet about this
You should try other places on the ‘internet’ instead of ‘enough musk spam’ to make you wiser.
Hanlon is currently using his razor for other purposes.
Hanlon’s Razor has never applied to fascists.
Yeah, but your fact totally ruins my joke.
It was a good joke.
aw shucks. you’re so sweet
Aw, you too. ( ˘ ³˘)♥︎
At SOME point persistent, weaponized incompetence has to be attributed to callousness or evil.
are we all idiots then? because all i see is a bunch of scholars talking about how wrong this all is.
Scholars are irrelevant. It’s the question of “Is Elon evil, or incompetent?”
At a certain point we have to assume evil as his mistakes are continuous and on going
we’re on the same page, so i hope i don’t come off as disrailing. i’m just shooting the shit.
i should have said ‘celebrities’ rather than ‘scholars’. scholars are actually screaming their lungs out right now.
and there’s no question. tt’s not incompetence. the guy owns a fucking rocket company.
but falling down a bunch of stairs is a lot more razor-friendly than being pushed, so i’ve now taken to practicing old pagan rituals to invoke time and gravity.
I am just trying to give engagement :) Lemmy needs more activity and it starts with us dumbasses.
I never took what you said as hostile; I feel your comment was worth responding to.
I just wish the media would quit enabling by pretending any of this is normal or accidental…
Maybe pagan rituals are the answer… we really need some [redacted]
oester is coming up, and i hear the christians love bunnies and eggs but can’t quite explain why…
yeah, we’re totally on the same page. i find myself almost wanting to disagree with you on something (edit: :P)
Only a complete buffoon would give another buffoon raw unchecked power like this. God damn this is the lowest point in US history.
Lowest point in US history so far
Yo dawg, I heard you like buffoons…
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how much time do you think Xzibit spent on how to spell his name? Is the “z” really necessary? Was it a design decision?
I feel like there is a slight chance of some seeing Xibit and pronouncing it zibit (like xerxes)
zz-zzibit
Warning everyone that I could not find a source for this and this Twitter post isn’t any evidence in itself. So if you’re saying I told you so, then you’re just as susceptible as the people who believe $300m was being sent to 11yos without any explanation.
I found two sources for this info.
Who could see their Social Security benefits stopped?
Government Executive reports that the SSA memo proposes ceasing payments that are made to people without Social Security numbers. While people without an SSN are not eligible to receive Social Security benefits of their own, there are scenarios where they can accept benefits on behalf of an eligible person who does have an SSN as that person’s “representative payee.”
A link in that text goes to https://www.govexec.com/management/2025/03/ssa-weighs-axing-payments-170000-beneficiaries/403740/ and it gives an example:
That task could be arduous, as finding payees is already so difficult that at times the agency turns to institutional payees like child welfare agencies, said Romig. SSA staff also have to assess the suitability of payees.
“Say you’re a kid and you don’t have a payee for a while — they stop paying the benefit until they sort it out,” she said of the potential for interruptions to benefits.
It may be that the OP read that and extrapolated it to mean orphans would be cut off … which may or may not be true.
Those are for SSA, not SBA. They don’t explain why SBA would be brokering business loans with 11yos. There is likely a valid explanation here, but the media doesn’t need to get up in arms until more details are available.
DOGE looks to be what’s getting all up in arms here. If there’s suspicion of corruption, investigate, Don’t just cut it all off! This isn’t a car factory, it’s food and shelter, aka the economy!
Of course I think he knows this and is actually trying to bring about a recession so he can seize whatever power he can
I agree, but the Twitter post isn’t DOGE and is potentially incorrect. You don’t battle disinformation with more disinformation.
I don’t see anything about SBA in the articles above.
There’s nothing unlawful or untwart about an 11yr old getting a business loan if they have a business, that’s just a motivated kid. If not investigate and then shut it down if it’s fraud, don’t just read the title and cut it based off that.
You clearly don’t know the basics of how an SBA loan works so I’m not sure why you are even making statements as if you’re an expert.
Also, I’m not giving an opinion on the legality of the situation. I’m stating the Twitter post is based on no provided evidence so everyone in this thread defending against another ridiculous statement with more ridiculous statements shows that both sides are equally willfully ignorant and susceptible to propaganda.
I’m on the side that thinks it’s likely a record keeping error because the names do not match the SSNs. Also, banks are the actual lenders behind SBAs and it’s highly unlikely that in one specific year, banks decided to loan out over $300m to over thousands of businesses with credit checks that did not match the name returned on an SSN with the name of the person being lent too.
That’s not a counterargument that’s a bad attempt to strawman. Similarly there are zero age restrictions on an SBA loan, none zero.
There’s no need to defend against either, they’re both legal.
Probably, that doesn’t change the fact that it wouldn’t be illegal even if the ages are correct.
You think children are getting undeserved money from the government.
I think children are getting money from the government.
We are not the same. </meme>
Regardless of evidence provenance, children need to be our most sacred class of people, followed by the elderly and disabled. It shouldn’t even be a question about how and why we take care of them, we just fucking should.
Misinformation is real, so I see part of your point, but the people outraged at this are WILDLY different from the people outraged that kids might be getting money they don’t “deserve”. Can we not just be nice to each other? This isn’t actually a zero-sum game.
The best part is how his efficiency improvements will cost the government half a trillion dollars 😆
It’ll result in Musk’s douchebag billionaire buddies not getting the extra tax scrutiny. It’s a feature not a bug.
Efficiently extracting tax dollars into private bank accounts.
Thanks for making it national news, major national media. Good work.
Talking about Odious Lusting After Fortunes
Who knew musk is a pos…I knew…Elon musk and Donald Trump are destroying America’s image and it ability to be a world power
I’m sure he’ll be super bummed about it whenever he wakes up from his latest k-nap.
I’m getting sick and tired of updating my The Ballad of the Techno-Prophet: A Decade of Deception
Did they actually cut it off?
Yeah, I am not doubting that this happened, because in the mix of callousness and incompetence on display, it isn’t unlikely. But a source would be much appreciated, still.
We don’t need sources, we just go off vibes
they tell a thousand lies in the time it takes to fact check one. We tell one lie, and suddenly every complaint we’ve ever held against them is invalidated because we’re liars.
I think it’s obvious how absurd this is.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen this said better. I’ll be quoting you.
wish i could take credit for it, stole the quote from a reddit comment from a few years ago. I’m sure the guy i stole it from stole it from someone else.
That’s cool. I’ll re-gift it, then. Thanks!
Here’s a Snopes review of what I think is the same specific topic.
It mentions nothing about these being orphan support payments, but rather, these being possibly incorrectly typed SSNs that resulted in their recordkeeping systems assuming, based on the information tied to those SSNs, that the borrowers were, say, 11 years old, when in actuality they were not, and the SSNs had just been inputted incorrectly, even if all other borrower information was accurate.
They also didn’t stop these funds, as they were already given out. They’re simply “reviewing” them.
thats the american way.
Something about bootstraps and extreme individualism because real red blood 'muricans something
