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Leonardo DiCaprio pointing at a tv
And here several days later they are still trying to gaslight everyone into believing that it never happened.
lock them up!
Also the disappearing texts are a concern. There’s not much mention of that. And now you have to wonder, how many other conversations have been held there, and with who?
Disappearing texts?
Similar to WhatsApp you can set limits on how long to keep a message
Yeah the main point of using signal to get around the presidential records act, which is very illegal
And FOI. It’s sketchy AF.
It’s almost like both “parties” only care about decent OpSec when the other team fucks up.
And neither party cares about the endless imperial slaughter that these communications facilitate. Not even worth mentioning.
But muh both sides
The takeaway is that Signal is a bloody good app to use.
Sounds like it’s pretty easy to add the wrong people to your chat.
People are usually the weakest link.
Oops I buttdialed top secret information
It’s no different from many other chat apps. Select the contacts you want in the group.
There’s no issue with the app, it’s actually among the most secure. The issue is the meatbag behind the thumbs selecting who to put in the chat.
I’ve never had any issues by adding the wrong people to a group, personally 🙂.
Is that the takeaway?
For the reporter it was.
Shared military plans with a journalist on a private app.
Clown show … so let’s spin it that this came from a disreputable journalist.
Nothing on Hillary Clinton’s server was classified at the time it was put on the server. Some items were subsequently reclassified to the lowest level above Unclassified.
So there’s really no comparison between the two situations. It stinks of bothsidesism for the journalist to even mention it. A better contrast is between screeching outrage at nothing, versus the current sneering complacency about a major security fuck-up, though I’m sure it pales with what Trump is sharing with Russia and what he’s waving around in front of his cronies to brag about what he knows.
In my opinion the most relevant commonality is the hypocrisy of all the involved parties. Hillary had sent out a notice to the entire State Department saying to only use official communication platforms, and then did the opposite as if she thinks she’s above the rules.
Then these Republicans who condemned the actions also used a non-official platform.
Here we go with the “Democrats can do no wrong…” speech…
Please explain how you can read “that one thing everyone was mad at wasn’t as bad as they said” to “they’re perfect angels who never do anything bad” without being either braindead or a pathetic partisan hack
Just ignore/block them. They just want the attention.
Ah but you see it’s a very logical and reasonable conclusion. Allow me to explain.
ahem
DEMOCRATS BAD
Ah, cool, another account to block.
Bye!
Blocking them doesn’t silence them, it’s just plugging your own ears. Call them out instead.
They want the attention. I have no interest in giving it to them.
Where did it say that?
This is the projection we were talking about.
Any government business should be conducted solely on government equipment, classified or unclassified. What the poster is saying is that the two don’t compare, what Hillary did was conduct government business on a private server, what the trump administration officials did was share sensitive compartmented information (SCI) on a private app.
Both actions were wrong, it’s just that revealing SCI information is far far worse.
Nothing on Hillary Clinton’s server was classified at the time it was put on the server
Some items were subsequently reclassified to the lowest level above Unclassified.
Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent.
So there’s really no comparison between the two situations.
I agree. I just wanted to correct the record and to highlight that a normal government employee would have been fired for what Hillary did.
An app that multiple intelligence agencies have likely cracked
The app is likely secure.
The personal phones they installed this app on, however…
I don’t run a magazine so I couldn’t report it but I was included on a top secret Signal group chat where administration officials talked about how long you should wait after Trump or Elon absolutely explodes a White House bathroom. A friend at OSHA accidentally added me.
The younger staffers were given a map of nearby Starbucks locations because sometimes, it would take hours for the West Wing loos to be re-certified as a safe workplace environment. And if the inspector forgot his Geiger counter, forget it. Bathrooms were off limits that day.
Lock. Them. Up.
It’s almost as if they never actually cared about the server but rather were just using it to score points. Not at all like, you know, absolutely everything else.
HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP
:surprised-pikachu:
It’s almost like libs don’t actually care about this recent leak but are also just using it to score points.
The lack of self-awareness is stunning.
Ah, I knew there was a good reason I have you tagged as ‘fucking moron’
Which lemmy app does that?
The Voyager app supports blocking.
Boost does.
Now I have him tagged as Fucking Moron too.
Thanks for the tip!
Update: wow, this is really helpful!
Just block them.
At Bluesky it’s been astoundingly effective for getting the fucking morons to find somewhere else to waste their time.
I appreciate your advice :)
People do care about the leaaks, but also how ironically this situation is compared to the ‘but what about her emails’ situation in the past.
imagine getting banned from c/noncredibledefense, how pathetic do you have to be for that to happen
I laughed way too hard at this. Its only been a month or two since I switched to Lemmy and already I’m getting the injokes.
It’s almost like that party has no values and sees everything only through the lens of political leverage.
Okay, let’s just be clear here: Signal isn’t just another “private app”; the amount of information they have about your communications is zero (0) with the exception that I believe they can see if you have an account and the last time you connected to the server. Governments absolutely do rely on Signal. This fuck-up was strictly due to the fact that they’re incompetent morons just randomly inviting people to group chats and shit with no guardrails. If I had to guess, they’d probably want to fork the Signal app and make it so that you can only invite people with some form of clearance, but this last thing is total speculation on my part. I’m sure there’s some way to sanely do this. The part about Signal being secure is just objectively true; it’s audited like absolute crazy, both the FOSS app and the protocol. I would trust it more than whatever the US government could homebrew, even.
There’s been a few articles recently about Session authors starting with Signal protocol, and then continuing without clear understanding what they do, thus that Session shouldn’t be used.
Matrix is a compromise, it’s not as much about security as it is about just modern FOSS chat.
Matrix is a compromise, it’s not as much about security as it is about just modern FOSS chat.
Pray tell. Granted again that Element doesn’t yet support forward secrecy, but describe what you see as specifically wrong with Matrix, please.
but describe what you see as specifically wrong with Matrix, please.
Federated with huge load on servers. I’d prefer something like old Skype with auth servers part interacting via activitypub or something like that.
Do you see anything wrong with it security-wise? The wording of your previous comment has me confused where you fall on this.
This fuck-up was strictly due to the fact that they’re incompetent morons just randomly inviting people to group chats and shit with no guardrails.
No.
These fuckwits were handling classified and top secret information in the open on their cell phones.
It doesn’t matter what specific app they used. This is not about the technology. You missed the point.
This is the same team of geniuses that kept classified files, some of which were mysteriously emptied of their contents, in the unlocked bedroom and bathroom of a members-only club in Florida, near the swimming pool whose water mysteriously destroyed all the surveillance video just when the FBI were about to look at it.
Not to mention that, in this case, the phone network was known to hacked and infiltrated by adversaries.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Typhoon
This hack included JD Vance’s phone who was part of this chat group.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/25/us/politics/trump-vance-hack.html
These peoples phones shouldn’t be considered any more secure than a public bathroom.
Let’s also be clear: Signal, regardless of their encryption standards, is not an approved system for any kind of classified information. Leaks of this nature have the potential to cost people’s lives. Every single person in that group chat would have known this. Many of them have original classification authority.
Further, not only was the platform not approved for the information, the messages were set to disappear after some time. This is a violation of government record keeping laws and FOIA standards. This wasn’t an oopsie.
The mere fact it was possible to invite a random journalist to the chat is ridiculous. That shouldn’t be an option in a secure environment.
I mean we put a fox news anchor in charge, and if he’s even half as dumb as he looks, well that’s pretty fucking dumb. I doubt he understands, or if he does, doesn’t care. Just shameful. But hey, at least the libs are getting owned.
