It’s more expensive for a worse game than V or VI, both of which can be had for the price of dirt.
Not surprising.
I’m not paying $120 Australian for it no matter how improved it is
Yeah that’s honestly the main thing for me too. It’s $120 Canadian for the Deluxe version. My price point is like… $30, especially since by all accounts it’s not even finished.
Has there ever been a finished civ game on launch since DLC existed?
Nope. Paradox and EA are the same.
Why would you ever buy the deluxe version of any game?
Civ 7 is out now? Jesus. I can only handle the strategic view from civ 5
5 is the best one imo
Civ6 still isn’t in a state that I’m happy with playing it over civ 5, or even civ4. What makes them think I’d give civ7 the time of day?
I think a lot of people are waiting for the first Civ7 expansion pack to be released, whenever that may be.
Civ 6 without R+F, GS feels like a completely different game. As an example, in vanilla you can expand anywhere right up to someone’s borders whereas with the expansion straying too far from your territory you could just lose it to influential pressure from neighbouring cities.
I think a lot of people are waiting for the first Civ7 expansion pack to be released
I’m waiting for the last Civ7 expansion pack to be released.
I haven’t tried civ7 yet but I really like humankind, the only 4x game that I actually finished thrice. If only Humankind didn’t die, maybe it would have had more content added.
I mean, each of these games are just the same as the previous but with less content more or less?
They do make changes throughout the series, but every new game is a complete reset to a basic game so they can sell you all the DLC and expansions to make it into a full game.
The game is lietarlly half cooked, and they clearly wanted to sell the other half piecemeal as DLC.
The game literally only has 3 eras. Every other civ game has 6.
But don’t worry, they’re adding Mount Everest.
What a fucking joke
That felt like Civ 5.
Playing it on launch, it was so bare.
Playing the Complete version, it was finally fun to play.
I’m sure I’ll move on at some point, but I’m currently running maybe 30 mods on civ 6, and they are mostly QoL. Parts of both gameplay and UI are just poorly thought out even to this day. So I was expecting the new game to be released in a state I’d dislike. It might take longer to improve than I thought, though.
Isn’t this the rule with every civ launch? They’re all somewhat half-baked on launch (although 7 admittedly looks quite a bit less baked than the others).
That said, I feel Civ formula seems to be in decline. To me Call To Power was peak civ ( yeah, fight me ), but while 3,4 and 5 were great “second-bests”, I couldn’t really get into 6 and I’m not really planning on playing 7 ( not with this 3-age format anyway ).
At a certain point they’re beating a dead horse. Outside of graphical updates (which I thought the cartoon-y look of the leaders in civ 6 was a huge downgrade), the core gameplay is still mostly the same throughout the series.
I watched a video on civ 7 and it seems like they really tried to shake up a lot in the game, I think for this reason that they needed to try something fresh to stay relevant. But really this is to its detriment rather than benefit.
I’m not sure if the three age thing is to “even the playfield” on those marathon long sessions when one civ runs away with the ball so to speak, but really that’s one of my favorite parts of the series. Like it’s awesome to take out some cavemen with navy seals or launch nukes when everyone is cowering in fear. If everything gets massively reset, then why even try to get ahead? I’ve not played the game so there could be more nuance but that’s my general impression.
Yeah releasing an unfinished game without any exciting new changes and adding more dlc each iteration has been killing new civ releases and burning many long term fans who get hyped for a new civ. Paradox, Ubisoft, MicroProse, etc pull the same predatory monetization shit and when the price tag is 70 USD their half baked, missing ingredients cake just doesn’t look appetizing to most.
Everyone knows you don’t buy a Civ game the first few years it’s out.
As far as I’m concerned, they are still in the beta test for at least the next 2 years, then MAYBE I’ll think about grabbing it.
I own 6 but still havent played it much.5, on the other hand, I still play a few hours a week.
At this point, you can get all the dlc for 5 bucks on a sale for Civ 6
But… I already have it, though. I just never play it because I am pretty happy with 5 and it runs better on my macbook.
Same with Paradox games. 4X in general is just really hard to get right on release because of how many interlinking systems there are, so waiting for balance updates at a minimum is never a bad idea.
From what I’ve seen, Civ 7 is trying too hard to be Humankind. I don’t really want try it.
I mean, the ages thing grew on me. It was way too common in other civs to just snowball early and dominate the rest. Any modern civilization was just bad, because by the time they got online it was over.
It also speeds up the games a bit. I simply do not have the time as a full adult to sink 10+ hours into a single game. I have actually finished every game of Civ 7 I’ve played so far, which has never happened with any prior Civ installments at my current playtime.
Yeah, I am enjoying the age mechanic as a new approach to the formula. It’s not without its flaws, but in previous Civs after a certain point I just stopped playing/didn’t finish games when the outcome was clear. I’m doing that less now.
Honestly the flaws I have the biggest complaints about is the God awful UI.
Incorrect tool tips, no drag and drop, no ui for city connectivity, no renaming cities, disappearing entities.
It’s genuinely painful at times.
Big agree. Figuring out over building with the interface was so frustrating! Seeing city connectivity too.
Civilization peaked at 2.
It peaked at 4 with the fall from heaven 2 mod
3 for me. Although I really like 4 too
I do enjoy 5. But I don’t like 6
I think 6 has too much going on. I don’t care for the districts.
Me too! I think if the districts were in the city it would be great. Taking up a tile is dumb. I also hate the workers are only good for 3 or 4 tasks
Civ 7 is out?
Holy shit, 5 is 15 years old now?! It still feels new. How old is 3?! Because that is my first civ
My first was Civ1 and I’ve played hell out of bith 1 and 3. Perhaps feel the same about 3 as you about 5.
