Summary
The Atlantic has published unredacted attack plans (non-paywall link) shared in a Signal group chat of senior Trump officials, including Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, CIA Director John Ratcliffe, and DNI Tulsi Gabbard.
Editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg released the full texts after officials denied sharing war plans or classified information, arguing transparency was necessary amid accusations of dishonesty.
The leaked messages detailed U.S. military strikes targeting Houthis in Yemen.
It’s so wild that they are very demanding of touchpoints up front but totally clueless about everything throughout the chat…
This is becoming a theme stretching back multiple administrations. The people at the top either don’t understand IT acceptable use policies, cybersecurity controls, classification divisions of systems, records retention policies, etc; or they are intentionally ignoring them. And for bonus points, everyone at this level is an espionage target.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controversy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_group_chat_leak
They’re ignoring them. Acceptable use policies are annoying and they’re too powerful to follow the rules.
It’s quantifiable and expected threat by a known entity, versus nebulous threat by a unknown entity.
The records will be scrutinized. The FoIA requests will happen. The hack of their private infrastructure might not ever happen, and even if does, the foreign actors are not necessarily going to leak the records back to the US constituents: the real perceived threat.
They’ll gladly risk operational security for less paper trail. Every. Fucking. Time.
Not sure about legality, and not that the US military care, but confirming someone id, and that he is visiting a gf or family member, then bombing the house, sound like a war crime.
They will pay no penalties for this. Trump deserves to be hanged for treason but that hasn’t happened yet.
It is a crime and Israel is doing it too so Trump and the whole clown car just follows the lead. I am all for killing people who have done heinous shit but killing everybody in whole build just to get tom them is beyond fucked up.
Israel, Russia and now the US just joined the club!
It’s okay when the US does it.
I’m sure USians would be perfectly normal and react calmly and rationally if a foreign power killed 50 innocent people while assassinating a target on US soil.
We actually have munitions that don’t blow up too. We could literally have killed just him. This isn’t 20 years ago anymore.
if this were any other regime, they’d be facing jail time for using a non-approved messaging app. But this is the year of the trumptard, so they will face no consequences.
Ten Bezos Bux says nothing will come of this.
Trump has already written it off saying “Waltz learned his lesson.”
So now we get to see if anyone is actually willing to stand up to Trump.
Why not hire someone who isn’t learning their lessons as they go? You know, someone with experience?
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Do you want something to come out of this? I personally don’t want Trump (or any other US president) having an efficient war machine.
The interesting part of publishing all the texts is it only serves Trump’s plans. To tear America away from Europe and force America to find new global relationships. Interesting times we are living in.
There is the outside possibility that the journalist was added on purpose
I’ve had this thought in the back of my mind since learning about this. How does one accidentally add someone to a group chat?
Why would an unfriendly journalist be in your (and everyone elsew) phone only as initials?
I honestly have 0 ideas as to why, but it’s just too stupid of an action to not be on purpose. I’m sure we’ll find out one day. These people aren’t very confidential and will probably blab about it on a talk show down the road.
We are four years out from a book deal.
“Won’t look good if this leaks and we don’t bomb them” is literally in the leaked chats. Journalist was added on purpose imo.
Dude literally looks like the bad guy’s top henchman that dies super easily after meeting the main character.
GO FULL WAR THUNDER GO
That’s the best part!
Trump: that’s okay none of it was classified (is clearly classified)
The Atlantic: bet
Trump:
I love how the Atlantic called around to the various government offices who should care about this stuff: “Hey, are you sure there’s nothing classified in here? If this is too sensitive to print, just tell us and we won’t print it.” This has been a study in covering your ass and making sure the reporter doesn’t become the story, as much as the administration would love for it to.
It really does show how stupid this country is about waving “National Security” for any matter that would make the administration look bad.
Whiskeyleaks going absolutely ham over here lmfao
Whiskey leaks is a hilar6name for this snafu. God I hate this timeline so much.
I was expecting truly stupendous levels of stupidity, and my expectations continue to be blown the fuck away on a more or less daily basis.
If there’s one thing that “both sides” agree on, it’s that it’s ok to murder people in Yemen. Just don’t mess up the genociding with poor OpSec, because that’s a problem. smh.
These people won’t get in trouble because they’re serving fascism. It doesn’t matter if they leak their wacko plans because they’re attacking impoverished non-white people on the other side of the planet.
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So yesterday they lied to congress more often than they told the truth? So many “I don’t recall” when in fact they could pull it up on their phone and know? Traitors to American families every one of them
I fucking hate this shit so much.
So you don’t recall a lot, huh? So clearly you’re not fit for your position, good luck finding a new job tho.
I am in lots of group chats and don’t read every one of them to completion. So not all members of the chat knowing or remembering what happened is to be expected.
Yeah, but the second something juicy happens, we all scroll back and get caught up pretty quickly.
You are in group chats at this level? Because, I’m sure as fuck is not. And if I was, I’d read every message.
Lying about sleeping with an intern - impeachment
Lying about sharing classified information on an insecure group chat - “he’s just a widdle guy 😢”
Especially bad when the whole “reason” for that impeachment was about investment fraud or something and only became about sex with intern after they couldn’t prove anything else.
Whitewater real estate scandal. Kenneth Starr was investigating him for that and when they couldn’t find anything actionable, they switched to the perjury and sex.
I’m not a fan of a President using their power to have an intern blow them (I don’t think there’s meaningful consent there), but it doesn’t compare to raping multiple women, peeping on teenage girls at Miss Teen America, and making comments about how you’d fuck your daughter if that was an option. The aristocrats!
Stop taking away women’s agency with this “meaningful consent” bullshit.
At the time I was in the Air Force, and a bunch of us were discussing this. Well over half the women at the table has the attitude of “Are you kidding? Of course, blowing the most powerful man in the world is hot as hell”.
Monica was obviously into it and an adult.
“Sure my boss took advantage of me, but I will always remain firm on this point: it was a consensual relationship,” Lewinsky wrote in 2014. “Any ‘abuse’ came in the aftermath, when I was made a scapegoat in order to protect his powerful position.”
Lewinsky says she now sees that her relationship with Clinton was full of “inappropriate abuse of authority, station, and privilege.”
“Now, at 44, I’m beginning (just beginning) to consider the implications of the power differentials that were so vast between a president and a White House intern,” she wrote. “I’m beginning to entertain the notion that in such a circumstance the idea of consent might well be rendered moot.”
@andros_rex@lemmy.world didn’t take away Lewinski’s agency.
“Any ‘abuse’ came in the aftermath, when I was made a scapegoat in order to protect his powerful position.”
And that’s what seals the deal for me. If Clinton gave a shit about Lewinsky, he would have at least tried to protect her somewhat in the fallout. He had fun, she had consequences.
People on the left treated her like shit - I guess it is further evidence that Bill Maher has always been awful. She got played on manipulated on both sides. Her reputation was trashed and she had a hard time finding work after - it destroyed her career and future.
This was a boss that took advantage of his power and authority to get a couple loads out, and then disposed of the person once they became our nation’s designated bearer of the scarlet letter.
I had sex with men who were much older than me when I was in my early twenties. The difference was that they weren’t my boss.
Dan Savage I think had something about “campground rules” too - if you are going to have sexual relations with a legal consenting adult you are significantly older than, it’s on you to use your greater experience to leave that partner better than you found them.
Are you a woman? How the fuck do you meaningfully say no to sex with the President?
Go fuck yourself with that “taking away women’s agency” bullshit. Bosses don’t get to sleep with employees. Teachers don’t get to sleep with students.
Monica got treated like shit for decade. That’s not “hot as hell” unless you’re a creepy misogynist that gets off on women being public humiliated.
They shouldn’t be doing any of that on Signal anyway.
Jesus Christ, they’re just so fucking stupid. This is the kind of thing that would see employees of a major corporation fired in an instant, but I just know that these careless chucklefucks are going to be in my news feed for a while yet, possibly another four years so long as they keep currying the favour of Trump. This shit is pathetic, the rest of the world is embarrassed on behalf of American citizens for having to deal with this incompetence.
You make a good point. These traitors want to privatize the entire government, but no private sector company would accept the sort of behavior that is SOP for these MAGA Morons. None of them would survive their probabtionary period. That’s why they’re all in MAGA government, where competency is irrelevant.
Why only four years? What happens after then?
HitlerPig makes history with a third term.
Presumably, another candidate is elected to office. If not, it’s a coup, and he continues as “President For Life” like other dictators.
Bold of you to assume there will be more elections
Oh, there will be “elections”, just like how Russia has “elections”.
Hope springs eternal, and all that.
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They don’t feel anything, because they’re fucking dead. Trump’s lackies’ opsec changes nothing about these people being dead.
Le epic troll of killing a bunch of people
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I’d be afraid of being arrested for treason even though Trump’s people claim it wasn’t classified
