- cross-posted to:
- europe@feddit.org
- cross-posted to:
- europe@feddit.org
The Ministry of Justice is developing a system that aims to ‘predict’ who will commit murder, as part of a “data science” project using sensitive personal data on hundreds of thousands of people.
You must log in or register to comment.
Why are they rebooting “Minority Report?” The Tom Cruise version was excellent, we don’t need a new one.
Thought crimes. Neat.
So what’s the plan after that? You can’t arrest people until after they commit the crime. Otherwise it gets confusing.
The UK isn’t the US, the government can’t just do whatever it wants and get away with it.
Stop falling for the liberal trap that laws and bureaucracy will somehow magically save you from fascism. It won’t. This is just the start. They’re slowly warming you all up to it until it’s going to be too late. There’s no such thing as “This can’t happen here!”. It definitely can, and it definitely will if you don’t organise and stop it.
I’ve read through the entire article and I can’t find anywhere where it says that they will actually be acting in the data. It also says in the article that this project was started by the conservatives not labour so again I don’t necessarily think there’s cause for concern right now. Also the fact the government even responded to the freedom of information request seems to suggest that it isn’t actually a secret project.
Shit like that needs to be stopped while it’s just someone’s wild wet dreams. When it will become solid plans with budget and deadlines, it will already be too late
It would be hilarious to see random civilians being casually followed by a policeman (policeperson?), overtly and cheerfully “nah mate, you haven’t done a thing. I’m just here to watch. For now. Carry on.”
Yet.
Aha the “it might happen” argument, used to justify pretty much any amount of pearl clutching that one feels is necessary.
I’m not saying it’s impossible but just saying it might happen and then providing no actual evidence as to why that might happen doesn’t really constitute an argument. We might have super intelligent AI by next month, but we probably won’t so I’m not going to worry about it.
Is it gonna be a list of all the police and military?
No silly, not after they input race.
It’s the minority report wtf
hey lets feed the guessing machine crime data generated from policing by a bunch of racist ass cops. No way will the resulting “predictions” be racist
at first i thought your suggestion was to feed the machine racist cops to find them and got all hyped ):
Didn’t they try this in Florida and it basically became officers harassing the fuck out of a teenage kid and his mom at all hours of the night?
E: yeah, fuck this shit.
Hey, remember when pre-musk twitter had to turn off their extremism automod for republican politicians because they were constantly spewing the same patterns of extremist content that actual ISIS-supporting accounts were?
Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I’m not superstitious, but I’m starting to think that the 30s are cursed, the closer we get to them the worse Europe gets.
Yeah, can’t say that I disagree
As a data engineer:
Number of subreddits banned from?..site wide, that’s a lot of subreddits lol.
Hasn’t this been tried before? and failed
This will only dehumanize and discriminate people that enjoy drugs or have been kicked down by society. It will never catch the people that are actual killers. The only ones that can be predicted are those kids in gangs with their machetes. But those are all a risk already.
I wonder if it will flag a lack of social care by the government as possible factor. Lmao.
Is Tom Cruise going to run the program?
Call it Minority Report
Because they will inevitably target minorities?
It’s just institutional racism with extra steps
Because of the early 2000’s movie Minority Report that has this exact same plot and is starred by Tom Cruise.
I feel it’s time for a remake, maybe turn the three
sistersprecogs into 3 AI computers?maybe turn the three sisters
Two of the three precogs were boys, by the way.
I definitely need to rewatch this movie again.
Niooce.
Oh boy! …Here we go, dropping a new Dystopia again!
So… What happens when it is wrong?
No it is never wrong, just super early. Just arrest people at 18 for crime they will do at 60 obviously.
We find out the guy running the tool has been manipulating it and is the murderer.
Touché, indeed.
social rating here we go
Was that a Black Mirror episode?
It was an episode on The Orville. Probably Black Mirror too.
Probably. It’s also reality in China.
No? Why are you spouting BS? The Chinese Social Credit System is basically the same as the consumer credit reporting agencies in North America. Except the data is handled by an authorian state instead of for profit corpos.
It’s also based on “law-abiding behavior” and “moral values” Source:
2.2. Finding the Social Credit System in a regulatory jungle
The broad range of policy goals projected on the system explains why what is generally translated as “social credit” is not a clearly and legally defined concept. Documents and discussions of the system contain a set of terms that range from financial creditworthiness (征信) to broader trustworthiness, law-abiding behaviour, or even moral values such as honesty and integrity (诚信/守信).
I don’t know if all of that has been implemented, but that does seem to be part of the goals.
Yes, it probably has its issues with vague wording. But MERCS also released a fact check a year later, attempting to dispel myths:
Interesting. Thanks for the link!
Let’s call it project insight.
