Summary
Trump reportedly held up a digitally altered image of the hand of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, a Maryland man who was deported by the Trump administration, in an attempt to prove Garcia is a gang member.
Trump can be seen holding a printed-out photo… demonstrating that “MS-13” is tattooed across his knuckles.
“This is the hand of the man that the Democrats feel should be brought back,” Trump posted. However, many have pointed out that the image appears photoshopped.
“MS-13 looks like it was typed on the photo.” “Needing to have a photo doctored… is definitely something a psychopath would do.”
It’s nice to see Trump can learn and grow. It wasn’t that long ago when he would have just scribbled it with a sharpie. Anyway, it must really annoy Trump that thanks to Senator Van Hollen’s visit, where he proved he could do what Trump admitted that he himself could not, we now have unadulterated photos of Garcia’s hand without the shitty photoshop.
Also, weren’t they already claiming he was part of some Venezuelan gang? MS-13 is an American gang of jailed Latinos.
Elon should have picked his gooner squad for their skills instead of their sycophantcy.
As it is just a photo of a hand, it could be anyones hand.
Looking at the photo on top of this thread, which shows his hand, it seems like he has the tatoos, but not the letters MS 13.
So that picture was most likely of his hands, and then someone added the MS13 to it.
Anyone’s hand, presented by the man whose first column in the “customs tariff table” was a ridiculous lie made up of cooked numbers (trade deficit instead of tariff rate).
There’s not reason to put a grain of trust in him.
You need a hand? Heck, I’ll get you a hand by lunch.
You wanna bring up possibility of criminal history as an argument against someone being entitled to their rights as a US citizen? Let’s not throw big and obvious stones in very precarious glass houses.
Even if it wasn’t. We don’t throw people in jail, much less deport them for tattoos. I know some people in thr Trump shitshow who should go to jail for their tattoos if this is what they want to start doing.
It’s not photoshopped. Why do you think in the wife’s posts, she tries to cleverly cover his hand? The guy got pulled over with 8 people in his car also, traveling from Texas to Maryland, and when asked for their addresses, everyone of them gave his address in Maryland. The guy was arrested with other MS13 gang members to and was identified by an informant as being member of the gang. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck… https://redstate.com/beccalower/2025/04/18/leftists-are-losing-their-minds-over-trump-photo-of-abrego-garcias-ms-13-tattoos-here-are-the-receipts-n2188040
Please no one give that propaganda site any clicks.
Lol, reassuring yourself with the left-wing bias website I see. Just stay in that echo chamber bud. They would never tell you something that wasn’t true. Trust me
You are missing the point. Let’s first ignore the fact that the link you provided is anecdotal and contains not one thread of proof, we are supposed to be a society of law, and if he is a criminal there needs to be due process and he should NOT be sent to a concentration camp.
Not missing the point at all. The Laken Rilley Act was passed for a reason. He doesn’t need to be convicted of anything to be deported. He only needs to be arrested
Who do I trust?
A lying asswipe who wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him in his orange face?
A man I don’t know that has been sent to a foreign nation’s prison for no reason?
Easy choice.
Why do you think the wife tries to cover his hand in photos? https://redstate.com/beccalower/2025/04/18/leftists-are-losing-their-minds-over-trump-photo-of-abrego-garcias-ms-13-tattoos-here-are-the-receipts-n2188040
That theory has been completely been debunked:
Why would she be covering a coded tattoo? Non-gang members would have no idea what it meant anyway. Can YOU explain why the cross represents a 1 and the skull represents a 3?
It doesn’t, and actual MS-13 gang members don’t bother encoding their tattoos. They straight up say “MS-13”. The gang is many things, ambuguous and shy are not two of them.
They’re kind of like white supremacists in that regard, they don’t try to hide who they are:
Some do, but not all of them. Just look up MS13 gang tattoos and look at the pics, or do a little research and you’ll learn that they do have coded tattoos that represent different things such as their rank in the gang.
The tattoos you’re showing aren’t white supremacist tattoos btw.
Yeah…. RedState dot com. Totally trustworthy source there!
Please no one click their link. It’s a propaganda site.
How is it propaganda when the link you directly to the twitter feed of the wife? It’s more like you don’t want anyone to see it because it doesn’t fit your narrative.
the individual is not the issue. it’s the process. i’m not going to go to bat for some rando who might very well be involved in nefarious shit, but i will damn sure defend the idea that every person is allowed a chance to defend themself. this is the issue. people need to stop treating this dude like a saint. it could very well backfire.
in fact, leftists and liberals in general need to stop automatically assuming the opposite of everything a conservative claims is true. that’s a fucking trap and it’s illogical.
It’s more like Microsoft Paint…it doesn’t even look slightly real. That’s if it even is his hand.
It’s his hand. You can find other angles of it in the same article. It seems to me that the ms-13 edited onto his digits is meant to be a translation of the symbology of his tattoos:
Marijuana leaf = M
Smiley face = S
Cross = 1
Skull = 3
Is that an accurate representation of what his tattoos mean? I have no idea, I’m not an expert on gang symbology. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t. The presence of a gang tattoo is something that could be submitted as evidence in court - which is a right the accused was never afforded.
What I am sure of, is that trump presented this information in such a vague manner so as to muddy the waters so he can come back later and claim his claims were misrepresented by the “lying, dishonest media” - which is itself dishonest.
It’s an inkblot test. His detractors will take the claim at face value, and his supporters will dig in and claim we’re stupid for not immediately taking his claims as gospel. He doesn’t care if his claims hold up in court. He only cares about the court of public opinion, and right now, he’s defining that conversation.
Why does “Cross = 1, Skull = 3”? I did my best to google it but every result is comments from posts made within the last day.
What I did find was this quote in https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-posts-image-kilmar-abrego-175852020.html :
“The four symbols – “Marijuana,” “Smiley,” “Cross” and “Skull” – have not been found in any law enforcement guidelines or manuals to stand in for MS-13 gang identification.”
There is nothing supporting it, MS-13 members tend to be pretty unafraid to get just MS-13 tatted on their bodies
I have no idea why. But I’m sure trump’s DOJ will be releasing new guidelines shortly that back up what their boss is saying, sans any provable evidence.
Is that an accurate representation of what his tattoos mean? I have no idea, I’m not an expert on gang symbology.
I’m not an expert either, but I’m from another country. Does the gang speak English? If it’s an Ecuadorian gang, why would they use English abbreviations in their symbol language? It seems natural for them to use Spanish. :)
Marijuana is Marihuana and Smiley is not adapted, so it’s still Smiley.
The cross and the skull being 1 and 3 I have no idea what means.
They couldn’t use AI to doctor the image because everyone would instantly see the 7 fingers and laugh.
What insults me more than anything is that he thinks I am so stupid that I would accept that obviously doctored photo as real. I felt the same way when he pitched his hurricane weather map with his Sharpie edit.
Hey, HitlerPig, we aren’t all as stupid as you, and the people around you.
You mean the US government had someone they considered a terrorist and instead of holding them, they released them?
Even if it wasn’t, it would still be won’t to kidnap and throw him into a concentration camp without due process.
So umm… What’s the problem? Return. Prove it in a court of law. Due process for all. It doesn’t matter who the person is or what they’ve done. What matters is how the government acts.
The problem is that they are trying to do away with due process. They want to be able to throw anyone they want into a gulag in another country where they will disappear forever. They start with immigrants, claiming that they are gang members and terrorists. They are refusing to prove it because they want to set the precedent that they do not need to prove their claims. They start with alleged foreign gang members, then will come “homegrowns,” as Trump has called them.
If we don’t make them prove their claims now in a court of law, it’ll be that much harder to do it later, and they know it.
Sure. We are in agreement. That’s exactly why it’s important to adhere to our constitution. Due process is an instruction for how to operate our government when looking to use its violent capabilities upon individuals. “No person shall” has nothing to do with who the individual is, only how our government must go about depriving them of “life, liberty, or property”, if it sees fit.
Until we change our constitution, due process for all.
Trump - “I bet photoshop is one of those computer thingies…I definitely didn’t use that.”