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return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 month ago

Hakeem Jeffries makes it clear he’ll stand by incumbent House Dems and pushes back on progressives

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Hakeem Jeffries makes it clear he’ll stand by incumbent House Dems and pushes back on progressives

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 1 month ago
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    Biden won with record breaking voter turnout. Trump lost by more in 2020 than Harris did in 2024.

    It took 4 days to even determine who won. But since Biden is a centrist, you’re going to pretend it was a landslide.

    Your wing of the party refused to read the writing on the wall.

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      It took 4 days to even determine who won. But since Biden is a centrist, you’re going to pretend it was a landslide.

      It took that long because Trump was denying the election results. Just like you are now.

      Your wing of the party has consistently lost elections for so long that they need to team up with the DNC they criticize to even have a platform.

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        It took that long because Trump was denying the election results. Just like you are now.

        Liar. I mean, there’s literally nothing else to it. You are just straight up lying.

        Trump denied the results, yes, but that’s not why it took so long to determine who won. And you damned well know it.

        As long as no one moves to the left for any reason at all ever, any lie will suit you.

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          Liar. Trump denied the election results and that resulted in recounts. And you damn we’ll know it.

          As long as the voters across the ideological spectrum elect centrists that represent their average ideology, you will lie about voters wanting to move left and any lie will suit you.

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            Liar. Trump denied the election results and that resulted in recounts.

            So you should have no difficulty whatsoever finding a source for any recount that trump demanded that delayed the results of the 2020 election.

            Or like I said, you’re a liar.

            As long as the voters across the ideological spectrum elect centrists that represent their average ideology

            They elected trump last time. How much more like trump should democrats be? As though there’s a limit to how far to the right you want the party to be.

            you will lie about voters wanting to move left and any lie will suit you.

            Says the guy who pretends that Obama was a clinton-style centrist and that biden beat trump in a landslide.

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              So you should have no difficulty whatsoever finding a source for any recount that trump demanded that delayed the results of the 2020 election.

              I’ll do that if producing the source results in you admitting you’re wrong. You’re already denying the election results though so it is reasonable to expect you to move the goalpost and waste my time.

              How much more like trump should democrats be?

              That’s for the voters to decide. All we know for sure is they did not choose the option furthest to the left.

              Says the guy who pretends that Obama was a clinton-style centrist and that biden beat trump in a landslide.

              Says the 2020 election denier

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                I’ll do that if producing the source results in you admitting you’re wrong.

                Go ahead, then.

                You’re already denying the election results though so it is reasonable to expect you to move the goalpost and waste my time.

                You made the claim that trump delayed the election results. You know you can’t provide evidence because we both know you were lying.

                That’s for the voters to decide. All we know for sure is they did not choose the option furthest to the left.

                Guess that makes you happy.

                Says the 2020 election denier

                Libel.

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                  https://web.mit.edu/healthyelections/www/final-reports/recounts-election-contests.html

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                    Now, you’re going to pretend that anything but immediate concession is moving the goalposts.

                    I’ll remind you that it was never in contest that trump disputed the election results. Just your bullshit assertion that his disputes delayed the results of the 2020 elections.

                    Let’s start with recounts, then move on to lawsuits.

                    There were two states that had recounts in 2020, Georgia and Wisconsin.

                    Georgia’s recount concluded on November 19. The election was called 12 days prior, on November 7. It did not delay the election results.

                    Wisconsin’s recount concluded on November 29. It also did not delay the election results.

                    Every single lawsuit listed by the source you provided:

                    Donald J. Trump for President Inc. v. Hobbs was filed on November 7, the same day the election was called for Biden. It clearly did not succeed in delaying the results. Here’s a source for that. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=366

                    Arizona Republican Party v. Fontes was filed on November 12, 5 days after the election had been called. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=376

                    Ward v. Jackson was November 30. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=408

                    Stevenson v. Ducey was December 4. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=416

                    Burk v. Ducey, December 7. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=422

                    Wood v. Raffensperger, November 25. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=417

                    Trump v. Raffensperger, December 4. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=414

                    Pearson v. Kemp, November 25. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=401

                    Boland v. Raffensperger, November 30. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=403

                    King v. Whitmer, November 25. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=410

                    Johnson v. Benson III, November 26. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=411

                    Johnson v. Benson II, November 15. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=384

                    Costantino v. Detroit, November 9. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=367

                    Stokke v. Cegavske, Finally one that was filed before the election was called. This one was filed on November 5. There is nothing in the document you linked nor in this link: https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=352 that indicates in any way that any injunction of any sort was put in place to delay or cease any count. It did not delay the results.

                    Law v. Whitmer, November 17. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=387

                    Rodimer v. Gloria, November 19. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=390

                    Becker v. Cannizzaro, November 18. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=389

                    Ziccarelli v. Allegheny County Board of Elections I, November 12. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=378

                    Ziccarelli v. Allegheny County Board of Elections II, November 16. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=385

                    Ziccarelli v. Westmoreland County Board of Elections, November 18. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=391

                    Donald J. Trump for President Inc. v. Bucks County Bd. of Elections, November 9. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=369

                    In re: Canvass of Absentee and Mail-In Ballots of November 3, 2020 General Election V, November 10. https://healthyelections-case-tracker.stanford.edu/detail?id=383

                    Your source is factual and reliable. But it does not say what you falsely claim it does.

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