• Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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    So, is there any candidate you won’t retroactively call a centrist in order to justify moving even further to the right from where the party is now?

    You are so married to the idea of moving to the right and only the right that you are unwilling to admit that the situation has changed. In the last three elections (I know, in your mind it’s still the 90s and nothing has changed, but humor me) we have run three centrist candidates. Two lost, one won but it was a squeaker.

    Moving to the right and only the right has hit a wall. You’ll advocate for it forever, regardless of the actual political reality. After all, the alternative is a nightmare hellscape where people are paid a living wage for their labor and healthcare is more than a means to extract every last dime from people before they die.

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      8 days ago

      I’m not advocating for the move to the right. Just pointing out it is a result of low leftists voter turnout.

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                harris lost in 2024. clinton lost in 2016. biden barely squeaked by in 2020.

                It’s been 12 years since democrats’ last decisive victory. Keep running to the right. It’s still the 90s, after all. I knew you would never acknowledge that moving to the right is a losing strategy.

                EDIT: math.

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                  Biden won with record breaking voter turnout. Trump lost by more in 2020 than Harris did in 2024.

                  How can Trumps loss in 2020 be “squeaking by” if it is a larger loss than Harris’ loss? Your bias is showing.

                  2020 was a decisive victory because Biden appealed to centrists.

                  Progressives have never had a victory let alone a decisive one.

                  Moving right is what the voters have voted for.

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                    Biden won with record breaking voter turnout. Trump lost by more in 2020 than Harris did in 2024.

                    It took 4 days to even determine who won. But since Biden is a centrist, you’re going to pretend it was a landslide.

                    Your wing of the party refused to read the writing on the wall.