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    Could Canada invoke NATO’s article 5 to request assistance to defend against the USA?

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      Yes. Article 5 doesn’t make distinctions between being attacked by members or even require all members to agree, it in fact specifically obligates individual states to act in collective defense so there’s not some veto power or anything like that to stop it.

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    “In fact, we don’t want them to make cars for us. We want to make our own cars. We don’t need their lumber. We don’t need their energy. We don’t need anything from Canada. And I say the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a state.”

    So he DOES need things from us. If he didn’t need us he’d just walk away and not trade with us. But why would he he want us as a state if we didn’t have something he wanted?

    He DOES need us, our workers, and our resources but he doesn’t like that we’re our own sovereign nation. He needs us but he wants us enslaved and controlled.

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    There’s a great scene in a movie with Joe Pesci and a baseball bat.

    I fantasize about Trumps fascist face being on the receiving end.

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    “In fact, we don’t want them to make cars for us. We want to make our own cars. We don’t need their lumber. We don’t need their energy. We don’t need anything from Canada. And I say the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a state.”

    Article 1, Section 9 of the US Constitution:

    No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

    Trying to remove any and all trade barriers in order to prevent trade.

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      If Canada doesn’t have anything of value, then why does he have such a hard-on for stealing Canada? 🤔

      But then, after reading the Canadian conservative policy declaration document this seems on brand. The CPC can’t go more than a few sentences without contradicting themselves either. It’s a terrifying document to read through, and the fact that they have as much support as they do is equally terrifying.

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    We have a lower average wage than the poorest state, and house prices that rival the US most expensive cities. Trump might be right when he says we cant govern ourselves, at least when people keep voting for the same cabinet that got us here, there might be something in the water at this point that requires urgent investigation.

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      We have a lower average wage than the poorest state,

      Wow. Even a cursory Internet search could show that this is wholly and absolutely incorrect.

      The lowest Canadian minimum wage is $15/hr, in Alberta and Saskatchewan. The lowest wage is tied between Georgia and Wyoming at $5.15/hr.

      The exchange rate means that $5.15 USD = $7.13 CAD/hr. That’s less than half of what PEI minimum wage is. And for the record, even if I were to work at minimum wage, I would enjoy $17.85/hr, out here in BC. That’s 2.5× more!!

      And even when we look at averages, the state with the lowest average wage in America is Mississippi, with an average annual wage of $37,500/yr.

      When we look at Canada, the province with the lowest average wage in Canada is Prince Edward Island, with an average wage of $56,887/yr.

      Again, the exchange rate makes Mississippi’s average wage around $51,952 CAD/yr. That’s 90% of what the average PEI wage is.

      Your conservative “alternative facts” are nothing but bullshit.

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        Sorry, median I meant. Obviously averages are a poor measurement for salaries.

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      None of that is true. You really are a turnip. Go spend some time researching quality of life, income disparity, and taxation. Canada is better in all regards.

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        Median I meant. Its also significantly cheaper for housing in mississippi. Taxes are definitely cheaper there, where given your dollars value more of your taxes fall under a lower tax bracket, and if I’m not mistaken Mississippi just cut their income tax entirely.

        Again this is the worst US state we are comparing to, I’m not trying to pump them up as something amazing.

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    US programming for war on Russia and China, amplified by all Canadian media/parties has been very successful. The US’s promised destruction of Canada has very little pushback from Americans. The Canadian political consensus of closer ties to Europe only works if Europe(+Canada) has closer ties with China. Otherwise, Europe will choose to suck up to US’s larger market instead of Canada, and in colonial sycophancy olympics, promising the US to help screw Canada over is path to get tariff exemptions. Europeans have same CIA programming that we do. A completely mental self destructive attitude towards Russia.

    As Canadians, we have the exclusive choice of protecting our sovereignty and prosperity or remaining programmed into US empire’s warmongering enemy manufacturing.

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      Sorry bud but Canada shouldn’t swap out one dictator for another, and hopefully intelligence will prevail this election.

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        None of our electoral choices have a practicality of Canadian survivability through deprogramming Canadians from their US programmed hatreds. Multipolarism is not choosing submission to a new (unipolar) dictator.

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          We do not need to trade with countries that do not share our values to be successful.

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            “values” is the key programming point. A key problem with democracy is that divisive speech and disinformation are free too, and oligarchism and CIA evil funds much more lies than the humanist truth that democracy was supposed to attain. Our elections are hateful identity based on preventing the opposition shit form winning. Proof that our values are empty CIA sycophancy is that “our values” say that the rightful election winner in Venezuela is a narco traficker who will give away the country’s oil industry to US companies.

            Values of pluralism and freedom are awesome. Values supremacism as a basis for US empire warmongering support is not any real humanist value you should have any pride in. You either have values or you are a piece of shit for provoking/supporting a Ukraine proxy war to diminish Russia.

            True values are the ones that are best for our society. We can recommend gay marriage for Russia and human/climate sustainability assistance, and the right motivation to do so is to make world/Russia happier. Values supremacism on the other hand is just an excuse for hate. Your programming for hate simply can’t be deprogrammed by facts and metrics on improvement towards your/our values/humanism. Your programmers will never let you see their side.

            I should also note that there is a wide (divisive) gap between CPC and LPC values, that has gotten wider with social media algorithms. Maybe our only shared values is that we will thank the CIA for praising/blessing whatever election outcome we get. A world order where the only governments we praise are CIA blessed democracies where all parties that are allowed to present a chance are forever in favour of US led military alliances/colonization should be a red flag on what our values actually are.

            There are 2 nazi apartheid ethnostates in the world that the CIA-aligned praises as great democracies. The identity of values supremacism is never threatened by the shift/emptiness and moral bankruptcy of a lack in values. The identity is all that matters/remains.

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    this is off-topic, but i have to bring it up somewhere because it’s been on my mind… i haven’t seen any discussion about what he intends to do about quebec (i’m sure there is discourse happening in french-speaking parts of the internet). but, like, french is our second language, and quebec is very serious about maintaining their cultural heritage.

    if canada, theoretically, were to become a state does that mean he gets to erase french-canadian culture? or does french become a second language of the US?

    he obviously hasn’t thought about this, because nothing he says or does is backed by any reasoning. but i just wonder wtf he thinks quebec is, and whether he cares about the culture there being kept

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    Is trump dead yet? No? Please would someone shoot that rapist in the head and end his life. Fuck the Trump bloodline. May they all fucking die painfully. Monsters, rapists and conmen. Fuck them all to the christian hell they believe in so much.

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    We don’t need anything from the Untied States. I encourage everyone to continue to avoid buying products made in the USA.

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    Yes thank you for reminding everybody who knows the truth that you’re an actual jackass. Everyone else is deluding themselves, it’s driving us crazy.

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    The irony is that America is more likely to split up into at least two and probably more countries before any territory a added to the existing boundaries. I give America les than three decades before it splits up.

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      I see three successor states at minimum: the New California Republic, New New England, and a theocracy seated in either Utah or Texas. Probably Utah though

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        The theocracy will start based in Texas but then Gilead will find out that Mormons are playing to win and the Mormons will find out Evangelicals don’t actually think they’re Christian.

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      I really hope that’s what this is doing, but honestly I can’t tell at this point. Some people are so disconnected from reality they either don’t see this news, don’t care, or maybe even like it. I have a coworker that called Trump’s clown parade of a government “strong” and just yesterday commented on the voter turnout that “I guess people are really fed up with the liberals”.

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      A lot of conservatives i know think trump is right and that Canada is subsidizing the US. One has even started to claim he will move to the first province that joins the US

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        I didn’t know I had this many walking amongst me. Of the ones I’ve spoken with they seem to share these values:

        They seem to hate that Ontario is forcing “gays” on kids at such a young age. I’m assuming my friend meant teaching about accepting people from different backgrounds, as I don’t think sex education applied to the age range he was referring.

        They think they’re being taxed too highly (that’s fine).

        They think US Healthcare woes are exaggerated. One said that you don’t really pay that fee, it’s a different fee and it’s not that much. Another said: I don’t go to the hospital that often.

        They think life will be better in the States with all the untaxed dollars they’ll have.

        (I will reiterate that these are just the ones that I’ve spoken with) I’m just wondering why they don’t just move there. If you hate being Canadian so much start the process of emigration …

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          No we do pay that much. My job apparently pays $9000 a year for me to have health insurance, and I still have to pay $170 a month for it. Plus deductibles, co-pays, and other bullshit.

          Anyways, how much are yall even taxed that’s “too much”?

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          They think life will be better in the States with all the untaxed dollars they’ll have.

          Not only do working-class Canadians pay less in taxes overall, compared to working-class Americans, but we also pay less on our taxes for our healthcare, and don’t have to pay a single cent on top of that for essential healthcare.

          Where it does flip is with the “middle class”, on the upper end of the working class. They do pay more in taxes in Canada, but you’d have to be earning in the top-20% of all adults or families to see that happen. For the average Canadian adult or family, they pay less than their American counterparts.

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          I’m just wondering why they don’t just move there. If you hate being Canadian so much start the process of emigration …

          I get it, immigration takes time and some of them may not have the skills or the means to do it, or to do it quickly…HOWEVER, in the meantime, if they have no allegiance to this country, they should show some dignity by refraining from voting and refraining from doing everything they can to screw up the country for the people who actually DO care about it.

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        So… by joining the us… they think that will stop subsidizing the US? Have they not seen what california already does for half of the country?

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    Canadians would teach the United States the meaning of insurgency.

    Given how impotent the US was in the face of resistance in Iraq and Afghanistan, how would they be able to cope with an insurgency where all the enemy combatants can blend in and walk among them?

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      The Canadians would also find no shortage of Americans willing to help them, as well.

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      And, best of all, walk among them in the continental United States. A vast, sprawling country of crumbling infrastructure just waiting for a saboteur’s gentle nudge, awash in easily-accessible guns, and demonstrably populated by sheep who can be panicked into decades of self-destruction by a couple of buildings getting knocked down. Who haven’t experienced war anywhere except as entertainment on their TV screens in centuries.

      Here’s hoping that even Trump’s idiocy has a limit before it comes to that.

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      American: “Hello there!”

      Other “American”: “Hi! How are you?”

      American: “Great, and yourself?”

      Other “American”: “Good! Great weather we’re having, eh?”

      American: “What?”

      Other “American”: “What?”

      American: *eyes the other “American” suspiciously*

      Other “American”: “Aw shit, my cover is blown.” *Stabs American*

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      Oh yes, the local Timmy’s Hoverround Brigade is exactly like the Mujahideen who trained in asymmetrical warfare since they were children.

      Canadians are completely delusional about what we’re actually capable of.