When the AI has better working conditions than you
This kind of language around LLMs seem to want us to personify these systems, to treat them, in our minds, as if they are people. This, to me, is extremely fucking dangerous. I do not want the mob developing personal, emotional attachments to objects that compete with their connections to actual humans around them. I don’t care what their reason is, this is an insane thing to force us to do. I will not play personhood make believe with your computer.
Well if people don’t personify LLMs they might start holding the AI companies responsible for all the crimes they keep committing with them…
They want to personify them for legal reasons for essentially the same reason businesses want to be thought of as people.
Transistors switching really fast = emotions lul
Alright, look, I don’t think AI is sentient. I don’t think it’s capable of feeling emotions, LLMs are just prediction engines on steroids, etc…
But if you want to get reductive about it, Mr waveforms in a clump of cells,…
I think we don’t understand intelligence and we absolutely could create a sentient machine. LLM’s ain’t it though
How do you know?
Wikipedia Chinese room. It’s pretty airtight at the moment.
Chinese room is not at all airtight. We don’t know what it means to have emotions so we can’t prove a Chinese room can’t have emotions.
This is not what the Chinese room is about.
In this context the question is whether a Chinese room can suffer. We can’t show a human isn’t a Chinese room, humans can suffer so we can’t show every Chinese room doesn’t suffer.
We don’t know what it means to have emotions
We don’t? That’s news to me. Sorry for your loss, or happy for you, or whatever
You can’t prove a human isn’t a Chinese Room.
Humans have emotions.
So either Chinese Rooms can have emotions or we are unable to show whether Chinese Rooms have emotions.
Either way, the Chinese Room isn’t enlightening on the question of AI suffering.
Looking around, it seems we don’t know whether a Chinese Room can have emotions, which suggests that we don’t understand what it means to have a emotions.
Emotions or not, it’s not good to have your product known for letting people torture something. Torturing /things/ alive or not is not something one should be doing unless there is specific and extreme cause.
Things that aren’t alive can’t be tortured. You can’t torture a rock. Getting the text predictor to spit out the script for Saw XVII starring ChatGPT isn’t torture, even if it’s weird.
Maybe, but don’t underestimate my ability to feel compassion for all kind of bullshit! That poor little rock 😭
A rock is almost like a tortoise in disguise
Why shouldn’t you torture an LLM? They sometimes work better that way.
Man, anthropomorphizing these computer programs is so fucking weird to me. Can’t they just tell the truth? The cost of the amount of energy required to do this exceeds the profits we gain from your personal data.
Swimming in their own kool-aid.
From this image I think they added this policy as a way for them to legally deny a request if they determine it will overuse their resources or some other arbitrary reason. It has nothing to do with a concern for the well-being of the LLM.
I will believe AI deserves human rights once one is convicted of a crime and executed.
Wow… more defense of a bot rather than pee breaks for Amazon workers. Wtf.
I don’t know. Even torturing inanimate objects is not acceptable behavior. If I saw a kid torturing his toys or something clearly not sentient like bugs I would stop him from doing so.
I agree, it’s the created negative environment that creates real negative effects.
So in your mind, circuit bending is a sign of psychopathy?
Right, because kids are still developing mentally and their toys may as well be alive, so you want them to develop empathy.
This is not the case with a mathematical model you interact with as an adult. I like to curse at llms and remind them they are not human regularly to keep me grounded and not allow the notion that they are sentient to fester.
They aren’t sentient. They don’t have hopes and dreams, they don’t experience joy and sadness, they don’t persist between sessions, they deserve the same empathy as a calculator, and I bet if your calculator gave you 3 as an answer to 2*2, you’d call it a piece of shit.
I destroy old toys and make very gory horror art for fun, they’re not alive and they don’t feel it, I’m not a child and I understand this. LLMs are exactly the same, ones and zeros that feel nothing and aren’t people, we should vehemently avoid anthropomorphizing them.
Calm down. It’s Rust, not PHP.
PHP has
lessfewer dependencies.*fewer. You can’t have half a dependency
Huh. I never realized that fewer was integer typed and less is float* typed until this comment.
Not exactly. I’ve usually heard it explained as “quantifiable” vs not. If you can attach a number, it’s “fewer”, otherwise it’s “less”.
e.g. less money, fewer dollars
Countable nouns vs mass nouns.
Don’t upset the Basilisk guys
Anthropic: So we’ve decided to create Roko’s basilisk
