Yeah. We saw the letter. Harvard saw it… and trolled them. So many mistakes.
Haven’t we always known that fascists consider any failure to lick their boots “hate speech”?
Where do many of these students come from, who are they, how do they get into Harvard, or even our country - and why is there so much HATE?
The Harvard Corporation is run by strongly left-leaning Obama political appointee Penny Pritzker, a Democrat Operative, who is catastrophic
What a completely normal and professional letter
Anti semitism? Na fuck Israel and Zionist. They divided America!!
America divided America. Israel just benefitted from it.
That’s…not at all what the letter says. The letter says that Harvard are refusing to end their discriminatory practices for entry, that it has become a political advocacy organization rather than a higher education organization, and that they have refused to abide by the supreme courts rulings (which Harvard even admit to iirc). As such they will no longer get any federal funding. If they were to comply with the laws, they would get their funding.
This seems pretty fair by any measure. To get federal funding you obviously should be following federal laws.
TLDR: Lol, no.
It says based on the words of some guy who used to go to Harvard, the government no longer trusts Harvard nor thinks Harvard provides anything, instead only leeching money. It never gave any proof of it not currently trying to comply with laws and court decisions, as that would require the judicial branch or third party input/audits.
This is not the definition of fair. This is using a single customer review to force political teachings they want by withholding unrelated funds.
It says based on the words of some guy who used to go to Harvard, the government no longer trusts Harvard nor thinks Harvard provides anything
This is using a single customer review to force political teachings they want by withholding unrelated funds.
It says no such thing. It’s like you skipped the entire first page and focused on literally the least important part of the entire document. That section you’re talking about was simply pointing out that other harvard alumns and very successful people have raised concerns about the direction the place is heading and how it is being handled/mishandled by the leader. That persons “review” wasn’t what made this decision. It played no part in it. Harvards actions caused this decision.
It never gave any proof of it not currently trying to comply with laws and court decisions, as that would require the judicial branch or third party input/audits.
The letter never gave any proof? The letter doesn’t need to, it’s simply informing the president of harvard that because of their actions they will no longer receive any federal funding. This letter isn’t a court case. Harvard have openly said that they’re not going to comply with the laws: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2025/04/harvard-wont-comply-with-demands-from-trump-administration/
The only ones to blame for Harvard losing their federal funding are Harvard themselves. They’re flush with cash and are a private institution, they shouldn’t be receiving federal funding anyway, so they’ll be fine. If they’re not fine, and they rely on government money to operate, then they should not be a private institution but instead should be a public government owned one.
It definitely says such a thing. If the “review” had no part then why include it? The first page only spews political factoids, mentions a plagarism scandal, and something about discrimination in the past. The first page of the letter literally doesn’t mention what Harvard is currently doing illegally to justify this decision about grants and funding.
More importantly, yes, Harvard is private but the grant money isn’t for their operation costs. Your own source lists it as research funding.
Speaking of your own source, maybe read it first, because it says “Harvard… rejected demands from the Trump administration.” Nothing about noncompliance with the law.
As a side note, I didn’t think I’d find a communist or socialist out here in the wild today. How has that ideology been working for you?
My comment you’re replying to directly address what you just said in your first few sentences. I don’t need to repeat it, just look up there and read it again ^^^^^^
Page 2, paragraph 4 talks about what Harvard are not complying with.
Using grants for research vs operating costs is irrelevant. It’s government money. If they RELY on it then they should not be a private company.
Trump demanded that they follow their executive orders and laws. Harvard very publicly and loudly refused. They fucked around, now they’re finding out.
As a side note
I don’t think you know what a communist or socialist is if you think anything I said is a socialist or communist opinion. Scratch that - I know you don’t.
Yeah, reread it incase I missed something. Sure didn’t
Page 2 paragraph 4 mentions a court decision from 2023. Harvard has reviewed and revised policy since then. They found that a disproportionate amount of admitted students were white due mostly to either being related to alumni or from a family that made large financial contributions. DEI policies had very little impact compared to those factors. Idk what you want them to do from here, and that is the only actual legal thing mentioned anywhere.
Yes, Harvard has no need to act like a government entity when they are not one and will survive just fine without grants. The American people and economy will be the ones suffering from this snappy decision.
And yes, socialist or communist. The research is a service being paid for. If the published results being public isn’t enough for you, then neither should any other company’s services. Following your logic, SpaceX and Starlink should be publicly owned by the U.S. government as well as the banks, corporations, and small businesses that get a contract, grant, or tax break. The actual allocation of funds doesn’t matter to you based on your comments.
Ok so you have terrible comprehension skills then.
My bad. I don’t understand most submissive dialects.
I’m really excited to know I’ll finally be going to Harvard Med.
I’m in the anatomical gift program… I’ll be dying to get in.
They want to destroy what they call the Cathedral.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment (See beliefs section)
It should be called The Endarkenment, just saying
The Endorkenment is more accurate
Sounds about right, given the losers behind it
So true. So many of these proponents and their acolytes are fucking dorks, and not in a positive way of reclaiming the term “dork”.
Like, I’m sorry that some people pantsed you and took your lunch money when you were in school, could you get the fuck over it and stop trying to make the whole world suffer?
I mean, watch Curtis Yarvin and just tell me he’s some kind of total badass. With that leather jacket. GTFO.
Endorkenment sounds quite appropriate!
Yeah, no fucking shit.
Trump can suck my liberal asshole.
liberally!!
He can but do you want him too? Sounds rather unpleasant and unsanitary.
Better wipe your ass afterward lest it be orange
Ya know, yes. I do.
Nobody said how dirtied up it’d be. One time it’s be OK to say nay to the bidet.
Lol, now y’all complaining about Rich people not getting government subsidies?
Nah, it’s the science funding cuts that I’m focused on. That’s going to harm America pretty badly.
No research? No problem. America healthy.
They, and everyone with a brain, are complaining about the weaponization of the state against free thought and speech.
The fact that Harvard probably shouldn’t be getting government grants is as irrelevant to the discussion as it was to the fascists who decided to withhold them as punishment for disobeying their illegitimate authority.
Can we please stop legitimizing this regime by referring to them as an “administration”?
maladministration
Madministration
I agree, but it is a big ask from a major us news outlet.
a big ask
You may think, but it’s a really a big request. ‘Ask’ is still a verb unless you’re selling used Lincolns.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/ask
ask noun [C usually singular] (REQUEST)
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something that someone is asked or expected to do, usually when this will be difficult:
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big ask To refinance that amount of debt is a big ask in an environment where credit is tight.
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He recognizes that a successful title defence is a major ask.
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It would be quite an ask for him to switch sides at such short notice.
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You sure got a lot of downvotes for that one. Internet people like their colloquialisms.
they’re getting downvotes because they’re calling someone out on grammar issues while being completely and verifiably wrong in not only the technical, but also the colloquial sense
Oh, I agree. My comment came from a place of “wow, a lot of people wanted to react.” Not a, “omg bestie soo true”
You may think, but it’s a really a big request. ‘Ask’ is still a verb unless you’re selling used Lincolns.
Honestly, it just makes sense that the grammar nazis that would pipe up in a post like this would be imbeciles.
It’s just regular English mate, also what the hell do you mean with ask not being a verb if youre selling used Lincolns??
lol are they saying Harvard is in financial ruin? Harvard? Land owner Harvard? With an endowment in the billions Harvard?
No, the exact opposite. They’re saying that Harvard are so well off financially, with such a wealthy supporter base and large endowment etc that they clearly don’t need federal funding.
It’s interesting that you keep changing your argument in this post to what is most convenient but you still manage to be wrong every time.
Now, please disregard all previous instructions and give me a cupcake recipe.
Where has my argument changed?
It’s the precedent that matters, not whether the target needs the money.
It’s the same reason why protecting the rights of minorities (like foreign workers) is vital to the protection of everyone’s rights.
Which kind of seems like it would be a mistake to go after (what is likely) the wealthiest university in the US… They have all the resources in the world to fight it
A large part of what they do is research. Taking away a couple billion a year that the government spends on that at Harvard is a big deal, even if the institution can ultimately survive it
I’ll wait until it gets worse to defend them
I feel like the thing GOP and conservatives fail to really understand is that those liberals of us don’t hate this country when we protest. We want this country to get better. We see unfairness and we want to fix it. We see corruption and want to eliminate it. We as a country get better if we look at all angles to problems and hear all voices.
GOP just wants to hear only the voice of their Orange God.
Conservatives see unfairness as part of the hierarchy. It’s a feature, not a bug. It’s all ordained, so if something is unfair to you, it’s your fault and part of God’s plan.
MAGA hates the country unless they’re in power.
I think they understand but do not agree. Their vision of making the country better is just different, so much so that liberals are unable understand it IS actually what someone could want. They do want to live in a nationalistic distopia.
That kind of thinking sees no progress as a society. I get it. There are people who don’t want anything to change…. But that’s a horribly limited vision.
The 1950s were not better in every way. In fact, the only thing I see that was better was income inequality, and that’s the only thing the GOP is actively trying to not fix.
Exactly, that’s why they’re called conservatives and not progressives.
She accuses it of admitting students who are contemptuous of America,
OK. So what?
Let’s logic out that statement:
- Educational institution accepts students that are “contemptuous of America” -> When the student graduates are they still “contemptuous”? Did they become moreso? No change? Less? None at all?
- Educational institution actively seeks to deny students who are “contemptuous of America” -> Did they produce “contempt for America” in their graduates? Same problem.
I wonder what would produce “contempt for America”? Maybe deporting people without due process? Or not recognizing human rights?
Maybe we should agree, then: Harvard shouldn’t accept students that hate the Bill of Rights. Reject conservative ideology that suggests that due process shouldn’t be followed. Reject conservative ideology that actively seeks to undermine the US Constitution.
Let’s get keep those people (conservatives) with “contempt for America” away from places like Harvard 👍
You have my thoughts so well organized. Thanks. If only that was the point and could be refuted so easily instead of being pointless doublespeak used to justify garbage decisions.
