Remember when you use to buy a Switch game and the game would atleast partially before updates, be on the cartridge?

Well imagine buying a key cart for your Switch2 and, you have to download the game from their servers from scratch. The game doesn’t download itself to the cartridge, but onto your Switch 2 consoles internal memory.

Now imagine getting a bad update and trying to delete some data including the update, just to play with the original games version.

physical Key cart games are treated just like they are digital which means you can’t revert the update.

Even if the game is saved onto your Switch’s internal you cannot legally play a key cart game, without the key carts inserted in your switch.

The game data is not stored on the key cartridge but on your switch’s internal memory.

$80 $70 Nintendo Switch 2 carts

  • thermal_shock@lemmy.world
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    1 hour ago

    Also your games a literally gone, even your “physical” ones if they decide you did something they don’t like and banned your device from Nintendo networks.

  • No game on card ? No buy.

    I’m willing to pay for games, in two circumstances :

    1. A physical copy with a full working game on it (even if, understandably, it’s not the latest version)
    2. A digital copy with no DRM

    Nintendo obviously will never provide the second option, and if they also refuse to provide the 1st, I guess I’ll have to take my business elsewhere.

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      3 hours ago

      I’m completely in the same boat with how I buy games.

      A little off-topic, but it would be really cool if you could update your physical games so that the update is installed onto the disc/cartridge itself, and it could be then used on any console without an internet connection. I don’t expect that to ever happen, but it would be cool.

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    6 hours ago

    The opposite can also be said. People have always been complaining you can’t trade digital games.

    Now you can. It’s a digital game that’s not attached to your account, but to the physical card, it can easily be sold again.

    While certainly not as good as a true physical game, it’s way better than the alternative: a full digital catalogue tied to your account.

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      4 hours ago

      Is it really that much worse? Think about it long and hard.

      Ewaste is a bigger problem than the inability to resell or trade digital games (in my opinion, at least). One can be solved fully digitally, while the other cannot.

      Besides, Steam did it properly with Family Sharing when it was a thing.

      This to me feels like Nintendo wants a stronger grip on digital key redistributions by adding a physical element into it to screw over key and account resellers. People are much less likely to sell a physical item when compared to a fully digital one.

      Sending something physical is more time consuming and just more costly in general. I could always share a code via a message or an image to a friend, whereas with game cards I’d have to mail it over.

      Now, only time will tell if game key cards will affect digital key sales (and their overall existence), but knowing Nintendo, it probably will.

      And also - the whole point of “having a game catalog tied to your account fully digitally” is moot anyways if the game itself has to be downloaded anyway.

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    6 hours ago

    This was already true of a number of Switch 1 games, where the partial data in the cart did not include access to the full game. Some gave you access to only a demo (in the line of the “play before the download is finished” feature in home consoles), others not even that. And of course it was true of the “code-in-a-box” products they were selling on retail that you couldn’t even resell or return.

    The real issue isn’t how the key carts work, which is an improvement on those.

    The issue is that the cost of carts with actual storage has gone up. Nintendo’s change of memory spec means they’ve given up on the low-storage carts, which used to come in a bunch of sizes, some of which were relatively cheap. They’ve gone for a single 64GB SKU, which means the type of game that can afford the physical storage will be significantly restricted.

    This may well make technical sense (the new storage standard is based on a SD card update that may not even exist at lower sizes by default), but the practical effect may be that the cost of physical carts makes no sense to anybody but the largest games/publishers, which is a travesty. Nintendo should have found a way around this, even if it is to subsidize the cart cost with their cut of the game’s price to some extent. I get why that’s not the case, since it’d effectively mean giving their cut of each game straight to Amazon and other retailers, but man, does it suck as it is.

    I think what we’ll end up seeing is a lot more Limited Run-style expensive collector’s editions being the only physical media releases of many games. And even that only if people do get used to paying extra to subsidize the card out of their own pocket. If I was Nintendo I would have considered making it a standard to have every physical game in both formats as a rule and have people pay an extra tenner for the full storage version. Instead, they chose to try to push the top end of the price range anyway with no guarantee that the cost of media is part of the increase. They’ve been indecisive and the outcome is going to suck.

    Of course people would be complaining just as hard if they had done that, which is one of the examples where gamers’ default position being antagonism can yield worse results.

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    7 hours ago

    I don’t sell my games, so I see zero point in game key carts anyway. All I want is those to be identified so I know that if i want these particular games I don’t buy the useless cart version.

    Incidentally I absolutely never had to return to the base unpatched version of a game on Switch, and I have quite a few of them.

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      6 hours ago

      from what I understand, there are three legally supported ways to play Switch games on the Switch 2 I might be wrong.

      There are game cards, then there are game key carts, then direct download from eShop. The key carts, are probably going to always require a download of the whole game. Maybe Nintendo might prove some of us wrong on this.

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    8 hours ago

    “Oh noooo I can’t downgrade from an update, which all modern games need 'cause they all come out broken and unfinished”.

    Game key cards are a fix for the previous problem, which was one time game codes that get account locked after one use.

    Yeah it sucks you have to download the game, but you can SELL your old game key cards and buy them second hand. This is the closest we’re getting to selling digital games, get used to it.

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      And when they disable the download because “game is old” or “we want to remake it” or “servers are too expensive” then what?

      You don’t own the game and you don’t sell the game. You own a temporary license to play the game and sell that license.

      Just like on Steam or any digital store front.

      Sure the advantage is that you can resell your license, but let’s see if those cards still do anything in thirty years, like games from thirty years ago do now.

      They made a really shitty situation (not owning your games) a little less shitty.

      p.s.

      Obviously we are also in this mess because convenience trumps ownership, that’s why Steam and business models like these grew so popular.

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      8 hours ago

      Over my twice dead body. This is effectively just waste for the sake of producing waste, as the article pointed out. It’s the worst of two worlds, you no longer own your game and you have to find a little nubbin to play it. Piracy should not produce a superior product.

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          7 hours ago

          How do you think I died the first time? Gabe Newell himself gave me mouth to mouth and as I coughed out my thanks, he leaned in close to whisper “game trading is available through European accounts” before leaving through the office window.