• peteyestee@feddit.org
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    13 days ago

    I say this to myself when I see people jogging and I really just want to yell “what are you running from!?”

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    14 days ago

    I know it’s a joke. But would a wolf consider a human an apex predator? What about bears? Do these animals fear humans? I can’t say I’m familiar with them. I figured they wouldn’t, in most circumstances. I would think their default stance towards us is that we’re their prey

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      The bears and coyotes around here hide from me! Even if I try and creep on 'em, they still usually sense me and run.

    • Saleh@feddit.org
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      14 days ago

      We are certainly not their prey and without modern urban sprawl forcing animals into urbanized areas they would avoid humans as much as possible and this has been true for thousands of years.

      Humans are the ones wielding fire after all.

    • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
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      13 days ago

      Most animals know humans are too much trouble to mess with.

      Sure, you can kill one human. But next thing you know your whole species has gone extinct, or worse, has been domesticated into pocket yappy dogs that can’t breathe properly.

      In places where we’ve been around long enough staying away from humans has practically been bred into every surviving predator’s instincts by now (which is what makes polar bears so terrifying, they’re about the only dangerous predator that doesn’t have this instinct yet, and probably never will, now that murdering whole species has become a bit of a bad look); anything that considered us prey and didn’t learn not to simply doesn’t exist anymore.

      Wolves in particular (in the few places where they survive) definitely know not to mess with us, except maybe in the frozen depths of Canada, and so do most bears (again, with possible exceptions in the least populated bits of North America) except polar ones.

  • HSR🏴‍☠️@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    14 days ago

    I mean, if animals engage in pretend fights and other forms of play, it seems that they can on some level grasp the idea of practicing or doing something for fun.

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    14 days ago

    Dogs do love a good jog though. Give that good boi a bit of kibble and then see how he feels.

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    14 days ago

    They are animals and cant understand cause and effect. With nothing to chase or hunt you expire as a blob of fat

  • iheartneopets@lemm.ee
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    14 days ago

    I mean, the ability to run long distances without tiring is kind of what makes humans an apex predator. We can out-endurance just about every other creature. Most ancient human hunting techniques involved just wounding an animal, and then literally chasing it until it got too tired to keep going.

    Wolves are very similar, which is what made us such natural hunting companions. The co-evolution of humans and dogs is an extremely interesting rabbit hole, if anyone is looking for one.

    All that to say, the wolf would understand the need to run more than just about any other animal. A bear would work better here. A wolf would just see us running and think ‘game recognizes game’, just like they already did eons ago :3

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    14 days ago

    So this is pretty neat:

    https://www.science.org/content/article/born-run-early-endurance-running--may-have-evolved-help-humans-chase-down-prey

    Humans aren’t good at running fast, but we are good at running for a long time for long distances, so it’s thought that we would just run after things until they got tired.

    So like you know how people in horror movies would run and then look over their shoulder and Jason is somehow still there?

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      14 days ago

      Back in my reddit days I wrote a long comment about the fact that zombies are scary because they are the ultimate persistence hunters.

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        14 days ago

        I mean, them being walking corpses might also have something to do with it…

      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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        Zombies aren’t scary. They’re popular movie monsters because, while looking vaguely human, they’re sufficiently “othered” that you can kill them without remorse (thus acting as a convenient stand-in for other groups that the audience wishes they could do that to) and because they represent an apocalypse that kills most of the people but leaves the stuff behind, meaning that you don’t have to deal with society anymore but you’ll still easily have a roof over your head and food on your table (albeit mostly canned food.)

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      13 days ago

      Funny enough there is another animal I know that can sweat, have more endurance than humans, and much faster than humans. Horses.

      Imagine you fear getting caught by a horse or a human and then suddenly a human riding a horse shows up.

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          13 days ago

          That’s pretty cool. However, no human has ever won by more than 15min, and every horse has a 15min delay built into their times. So even the biggest winning margin of nearly 11 minutes would have lost to the horse if they had started at the same time.

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              For it to be scientifically accurate of a comparison, the ratio of weight:human needs to be equal to that of rider:horse, not a direct flip.

              In case my phrasing is confusing, to illustrate what I mean here is an example: a 200lb horse carrying a 100lb human is equivalent to a 100lb human carrying a 50lb weight.

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                10 days ago

                Things don’t scale linearly like that. Many things are proportional to either the surface (so x²) or volume (x³) or complex combinations of those.

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          13 days ago

          Also in very short races (up to 100m) if the human is an olympic athlete, though mostly because momentum is a bitch and it takes time for the horse to accelerate all that mass, and by the time it’s done the race is already over (it also probably helps that the athlete knows what they’re doing while the house is just along for the ride and wondering where it can get some grass).

      • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        It’s a few things that stem from bipedalism:

        • We can run and breathe entirely separately. Most quadrupeds lack the ability to run and take breaths independently of the pace of each step. Watching cheetahs sprint, for example, show that they have no choice but to exhale every time their legs come together and inhale every time their legs push apart.
        • Running on our hind legs only frees up our hands to be able to use tools and weapons, maybe even water containers for drinking on the go.
        • We can see further by standing up, and can make tactical decisions based on terrain, while still running pretty much full speed.

        Combined with our unusual ability to cool ourselves by sweating, this gives us an advantage over pretty much any animal in the heat. Wolves and horses can still outrun humans in the cold, but lack the cooling mechanisms to maintain pace in the same heat that we can.

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          13 days ago

          Running on our hind legs only frees up our hands to be able to use tools and weapons, maybe even water containers for drinking on the go.

          And for wanking, although that may just be an adaptation to compensate for our inability to lick our own dicks.

        • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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          We also have by far the best throwing game in the world. Some animals can spit with reasonable accuracy, some apes can kind of lob shit in a general direction, and there’s that one lizard that can spray blood from its eye, but nothing in the animal kingdom past or present has a human’s innate ability for ranged attack. The average man can throw a fist sized rock hard and accurate enough to crack a skull from 20 yards with his bare hand. And we’ve spent the last 10,000 years inventing newer and more impressive ways of throwing stuff.

          • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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            13 days ago

            Humans domesticated dogs for their ability to hunt by scent. Dogs domesticated humans for their ability to throw a tennis ball.

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            13 days ago

            lizard that can spray blood from its eye, but nothing in the animal kingdom past or present has a human’s innate ability for ranged attack

            I don’t know, a hawk plummeting from the sky at 190km/h onto something the size of a small rodent is kind of impressive, too, if you count the bird throwing itself as throwing…

      • JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world
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        13 days ago

        Yea but also tools

        We don’t have to stop for water, we can bring some

        Same for food

        Our preys didn’t have such luck

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    13 days ago

    I cannot stop laughing 😂

    Personally I think humans run because they are a species with enough cognitive abilities to be masochists

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      12 days ago

      It’s because we grew out of having to do physical work 8-12 hours every day just to stay alive.

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      13 days ago

      As someone who started running last year because it’s supposedly “good for you”, I’m inclined to agree lol