I couldn’t believe my eyes seeing this advice to teach young boys to hit girls so as to restore the boys’ self esteem and pride.
This is the kind of toxic belief that shouldn’t be allowed to proliferate here and yet is embraced with open arms by other users.
That boys can only regain their pride and self esteem by hitting girls leads directly to more violence against women and girls.
Is it? We really splitting hairs here on encouraging violence in children?
Teaching boys to respond with violence is sexist. It hurts those boys to be taught to hit instead of other forms of conflict management. It stunts their growth and development to encourage that they lean into toxic masculine traits like using violence to get what you want.
I do not disagree with this comment in any way.
But this is a very different comment than your OP.
If your OP had talked about “teaching violence supports patriarchy” I wouldn’t be here discussing this.
“This kid should hit back” is not an overtly sexist position. It is a position that supports patriarchy, for sure, by reinforcing violence culture which advantages men in individual conflicts and harms their growth and development.
“This kid should hit back; it’s not like they’re a grown man and woman” is, IMO, a position of “it’s not like they’re physically mismatched”. Not one of “it’s okay/encouraged because of their genders”.
I’m sorry that people on Lemmy continue to do stupid shit that enables and supports patriarchy. That is certainly a form of systemic sexism.
I still don’t think this is a particularly good example of “Lemmy has a sexism problem”.
What the fuck do you think this sentence means?
Please quote the part where it says “boys regain their pride by hitting girls” specifically and NOT “kids regain their pride by fighting back against bullies”.
Because the latter is quite obviously what the OP was getting at, not the former.
If you genuinely think OP was saying “hit girls to get your pride back” then we’re done here and I’m just gonna move on with my day
Please tell me where the picture says kid and not boy.
Specifically referred to as “children” and then exclusively uses pronouns as the only form of gendered language, in a language where it is standard to use gendered pronouns when referring to a specific individual.
Yes, the comment could have used “they” instead of “he/his” but that is not yet common practice in English (though I wish we’d get there)
Next question please.
What bruised pride if its not being beaten up by a girl…
You think boys don’t lose pride when they’re beaten up by another boy?
This is real close to “Tell me you’ve never been bullied without telling me you’ve never been bullied”.
Grade-school fights are always about pride in some form or another.
Seriously, I went to an all boys school, and by your logic no student in my entire school would ever have bruised pride since they never got beaten up by a girl.
Were talking about 5-6 year olds. What pride?
Fucking finally.
Well THAT’S pretty fuckin toxic. Yikes.
As someone who was bullied a lot, I frequently got told fighting back (against the boys at my all boys school) would restore my pride. I was never told “go find a girl to hit when she’s mean to you, it’ll restore your pride.”
Take that for what it’s worth.
Byeeeeeee.
Spend some energy calling out sexist comments instead of picking apart my wording on something that is rightfully outrageous.
It’s telling that you’d rather scold me over this issue than pushing back on the actual sexist comment.
You have no clue what I do or don’t comment about. I saw this thread in my feed. I didn’t see the other one. I call out sexist comments both online and in my daily life on the regular.
Congratulations on fabricating a reality to suit your own needs.
Blocked.
Thanks!