• Techno-rat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 days ago

    im simply saying that an extraordinary claim such as that hasan has a gag order from china because they secretly pay him, requires atleast some proof. Which you have given none of.

    and youre trying to make me the unreasonable one… lol. lmao even.

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      7 days ago

      This is not extraordinary claim. It is known fact in his community. Except you cant proove that he is funded by CCP, but the phrases he uses are aligned with chinese censorship, so it is reasonable claim, but unlikely that the mansion is from CCP, but who knows. You originally asked for proves that he is not allowed to criticize china, then I sent you to look at any of fucking videos about china with hasan involved, because you fuck my brains with obvious question. Seriously shut up.

      Very funny. But yes he is not allowed to criticize china for some reason, and also has lots of money, this makes it utterly suspicious. And I wouldnt want to trust this person as some kind of leader.

      Original statement. And THE ONLY proof you’d need in this case is proof of him not being allowed to criticize china. And if you ever did watch anything, you probably know, how he formulates his answers to the most straightforward questions about china. Which makes it obvious, that a person wouldnt be so precise and accurate when talking about sensitive topics in china.

      And yes: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oVrfN_uq2XQ

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        7 days ago

        brother if it cant be verified it is not a reasonable claim. Simple as.

        “This is not extraordinary claim. It is known fact in his community. Except you cant proove that he is funded by CCP, but the phrases he uses are aligned with chinese censorship,”

        or in other words:

        “yeah this is just my loose headcannon based on my tummy feelings about some statements he makes”

        if you say yourself you cant prove it, you shouldnt go around flaunting it like its fact.

        ‘you fuck my brain with obvious questions’ yes guy that is called cognitive disaonance and is the uncomfortable feeling you get when someone confronts you with something that disturbs a deeply held but wrong worldview… If your worldview made any sense my simple questions wouldnt ‘fuck your brain’

        The notion that it is completely reasonable to believe these kinda theories without ANY Proof, its p unghinged man. Thats the exact mentality of a conspiracy theorist, which is why im calling you that.

        Lastly, a 3 year old podcast where he is dodgy of questions about taiwan does not confirm that he is secretly payed by the chinese government ffs this if ridiculous

        just accept the L and move on. Its not shameful to be wrong. This hard necked refusal and double down of completely unreasonable views tho? This shits embarrasing af.

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          6 days ago

          Ignoring original message multiple times and showing off with pseudosycological analysis, doesnt make you a winner. The fact that you “won” an argument, except you won your own strawman and spent so much time on repeating your arguments against a strawman that remind me some narcissist traits. But sure, as I said itd be great if you shut up and don’t bother me with your unceasing desire to quibble and show how smart you think you are.

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            5 days ago

            i never claimed to win, taking an l is not literal here bruhh

            Also, strawman? Im quoting you directly and ive done so multiple times. And im also not ignoring your og message bro in actuality thats what weve been discussing. You are claiming, without evidence, that he is secretly funded by china. This is undeniable, theres a ton of comments of you doubling down on this. You also keep insisting you dont need any proof for that accusation, which is why im calling you unhinged.

            Kiddy hours in here my god.

            i keep replying because you do the same. If you want me to shut up, lead by example or just use the very functional block button 🙄

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              5 days ago

              “i never claimed to win, taking an l is not literal here bruhh” Prove it?

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                4 days ago

                sure, proven by the fact that i have not once written the words win or lose (except for when discussing your allegation of such), and only used ‘taking an l’ as slang for admitting fault. Admitting fault is not ‘losing’.

                I dont even believe in the notion that a debate/conversation can be won or lost. Its an exchange of ideas, not a competition