The real winner of the streaming wars.

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    8 minutes ago

    I never stopped. Big corp always lulls us into a false sense of security before springing the trap. I streamed for a little while but always kept me sails dusted.

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    4 hours ago

    I was perfectly happy with streaming services for a couple years when there were only like 2 good ones. I stopped torrenting for a long time and now I’m back to torrenting again

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      Do you use a VPN? I downloaded a random movie a few years ago and got the email from my cable company stating something along the lines of “we recently notice a download of blah blah blah was detected on our network. Please call to re activate your Internet”. So I called and told them “I just got my son a computer I didn’t know you could download movies”

      But laying for a VPN will cost as much as a streaming service and it’s so slow. And I guarantee sooner or later VPNs won’t even work in a few years (meaning your ip could be backtracked to the original computer)

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        The best, most reputable VPN, Mullvad costs $5 USD. Plenty are cheaper than that if you pay in advance for a few years.

        The cheapest streaming service will roughly double that.

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            When I had Mulkvad my speed test would go from about 335mbit to like 327mbit when connected to a somewhat close server.

            Connected to servers across the ocean it’d be like 310.

            They got a money-back guarantee if you don’t pay with something completely anonymous like cash in the mail.

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      That’s because it wasn’t originally meant to be a font; It was a stylized version of Walt Disney’s autograph, which they used as a logo. It later got bastardized into a font, because it became so iconic.

      Imagine how fucking cursed it would probably look if someone turned your signature into a font.

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      Yeah I run a small service for friends and its almost all Usenet powered now. I still like to seed torrents anyway just as an extra fuck you.

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      Usenet really is miles better. It blew my mind how quick and hassle free downloading was.

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        5 hours ago

        Please don’t tell us how to access this magical Dreamland or some people might do something unethical towards the streaming providers.

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          It requires a subscription, which scares off most of the casual “just looking to try it” users. It’s as simple as getting a Usenet subscription. Usenet providers are sort of like ISPs. Each provider will have an umbrella of servers that they sync with, so it’s worth researching which provider you want to go with. Most will have a wide variety of content, but they all follow different policies regarding things like DMCA takedowns. Many people like to get two different subs so they can have a primary and a backup provider.

          Subs typically come in both monthly subs and usage subs. For instance, the monthly sub will be unlimited access for a month, while a usage sub will just be like 100GB of download bandwidth, and you don’t get charged again until you use that 100GB. If you’re doing a lot of downloading, you’ll probably want a monthly. So most people will have a monthly subscription for their primary, then a usage sub for their secondary. So they only actually use their secondary if something is missing from their primary, and they’re not constantly maintaining two monthly subscriptions.

          Actually using Usenet will require a Usenet reader, which is a program that actually interfaces with the Usenet network. Sort of like how a torrent program is used to download torrents. Most readers will integrate with services like the *arr suite to automatically search for and download content. If that’s something you’d be interested in, look into the suite and see which readers work best.

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      The gold standard these days is the *arr suite with qBitTorrent and a VPN, and/or a usenet service. Unfortunately the *arr suite doesn’t integrate with Tribler, so you can’t easily automate your downloads.

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          The biggest thing is automation. If you have a Plex or Jellyfin instance, you can get the *arr suite to automatically grab downloads and add them to the server with metadata ready to go. But that’s not currently possible with Tribler.

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    The bottom right one should be tor-rent, not torr-ent. It’s a peer-to-peer media rental service running over the illicit TOR network. TOR is yet another project the notorious criminal hacker Linuxos Torvaldos made and named after himself.

    People always told Linuxos to keep his legal name and his illegal software separate but he wouldn’t listen. He got caught in a San Francisco public library reading with his wife Stella Richman. What a git.

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        Usenet may be old, but it’s come a long way. Just about all scene content is there, and I max out my gigabit connection during the download from start to finish every time, without having to care about the quantity/quality of seeders, or needing to seed anything myself after downloading.

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    This, plus self hosting jellyfin and *arr and I basically have a better service, with no ads, nice UI, access from all my devices, offline access, 4K resolution, music streaming. Basically the all-inclusive premium plan, not exactly for free, but for a very reasonable cost.

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      I have spent hours trying to get some kind of server set up, without ever really being able to connect. Eventually in my furious troubleshooting Googlepalooza I eventually found a guide that had my problem addressed in it and it boiled down to “you should find a different way to do this.” I’ve long since given up

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        The best home-lab way to do it is to have a standalone computer to act as a media server, then a NAS to actually store the content. Just grab a pre-built computer with an intel chip that supports QuickSync. The HP EliteDesk is a popular choice, since they’re commonly used in corporate settings; There are always a ton of refurbished units available for super cheap, since corporations will upgrade their entire cubicle-maze and recycle their old computers.

        Some people will try to run things directly on their NAS, but basically every affordable NAS on the market will end up being underpowered for most users.

        As for actually connecting, what part were you having issues with?

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          As I recall it was an issue with either my router or the actual modem I got from CenturyLink. I would have to go back and actually try again to get specifics. I right I’d eliminated the router as the culprit but I could be wrong about that, I was going back and forth between them. Port forwarding wasn’t doing anything, there was some issue trying to forward between the modem and router, and from what I remember that’s where I ran in to the “yeah you can’t do this try something else” bit in the guide I’d found.

          I was basically never able to see the server I had running on any other device. I’d set up firewall permissions as far as I could tell.

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            Gotcha. It’s possible your modem was trying to act as a router as well, which would cause a Double-NAT situation. Most ISPs will ship a modem/router combo, but the router part is always fucking dog water. And the issue with double-router setups is that if you try port forwarding on your router, the ISP’s router won’t automatically detect the open port, so you’ll still be blocked.

            If you do end up looking into it again, see if the modem allows you to set up bridge mode or DMZ mode, and point it to your router. (You’ll need to undo any old port forwarding stuff you attempted last time first, or else it won’t work!) Basically, this takes all of the modem traffic and passes it directly to your router, instead of trying to do routing on the modem/router. Which is honestly what you want, because your personal router is almost certainly going to be better than the shitty one they ship. This will eliminate the Double-NAT situation, because the ISP’s router is going to be completely disabled and is passing all of the traffic directly to your router.

            It’s also possible that CenturyLink runs CG-NAT, which would cause a Double-NAT situation on the ISP’s side. More and more ISPs are running CG-NAT to avoid transitioning to IPv6 as long as possible. Basically, there aren’t enough IPv4 addresses available anymore, so ISPs have started giving the same IPv4 address to multiple users using CG-NAT. Your public IP will be shared with multiple users via CG-NAT, the same way your router is sharing the internet connection with multiple devices via NAT. You can check your public IP address in your modem (or your router, if you set up DMZ earlier.) If you’re within the 100.64.x.x to 100.127.x.x range, CenturyLink probably has you on CG-NAT (since those are the public addresses reserved for CG-NAT.) But this breaks port forwarding, because you would also need to forward the port at the carrier level, (which you have no way of doing.)

            If they do have you behind CG-NAT, your only real option is going to be a reverse proxy. Basically, Plex/Jellyfin would ping a remote server, which then proxies the request down to your server. It wouldn’t require any port forwarding on the server’s side, because the proxy will be using https directly. Nginx is a popular free reverse proxy service.

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        There are some plug’n’play solutions out there, all off-the-shelf NAS you can find nowadays will have an “app store” type of things that will let you install Jellyfin and others Webservice in one click.

        The DIY way is cheaper, more flexible, more powerful, but it’s a journey and it can be very frustrating. I too, regularly spend hours if not days on problems that end up basically as “I’m an idiot and had a typo in the config file the whole time”. It’s a hobby for me, I don’t feel like it’s wasted time, I enjoy it, I’m learning stuff.

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        Just out of curiosity, what was the issue that made you throw in the towel? Was it a really specific setup you’re trying to build for a specific use case or something? I don’t have a lot of knowledge, but I can’t think of anything that would come up during a simple home server setup that would require you to completely change your approach unless you were doing some advanced custom stuff as a first go

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          It’s been a little bit, I suspect the issue was getting my modem and router to allow that type of traffic. It wasn’t the firewall. I remember spending a lot of time trying to get port forwarding set up so these fucking things would talk to each other the way I wanted and that’s when I hit the “you can’t do this with your set up try something else” message in the last guide I looked at.

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      I dump Blu-rays to my NAS with zero re-encoding. Even for older shows the quality is leaps and bounds superior to any streaming service with plenty of bandwidth.

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    I have Amazon prime, so I get access to Prime Video.

    My family phone plan comes with a Free™ Netflix account per line.

    As a student, my Spotify account gives me access to Hulu.

    I can use all of these services at zero additional cost to myself and I still steal acquire it through different legal avenues. It takes an extra 2 minutes to make sure that I have it forever and that it’ll be easily accessible.

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      What pushed be over the edge was trying to watch some older shows in Prime and getting absolute dogshit quality. When I sail I get guaranteed 1080p, no ads, instant seek.

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      I got amazon prime mostly for the free games, it’s pretty much a steal in my country (if you pay for one year it’s about $1 a month) and I still have to pirate things that are available in the prime video. Why? Because I use Linux and amazon won’t allow me to play videos in 1080p. Only 480p is available.

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      Torrent+ is not free, you need to download the cracked version on Limewire, and remember to turn off your AV before installing it also don’t forget to enter your real name and address to bypass the registration box 😉

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    I use Stremio that plays and streams torrents using sequential downloading. It’s like Popcorn time.

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      The issue is that this only works when the torrent community is healthy. If everyone used Streamio, nobody would be able to actually use it. Because it doesn’t seed the content, it just leeches and deletes it automatically. So if everyone used Streamio, there would be no seeders, and your streams would never actually work.

      Streamio is the “fuck you I got mine” of the torrenting world.

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        It keeps a cache that it seeds back. Whenever the app is running you are seeding. I think the default is 2GB of cache, which is less than the average of 1.3GiB for a movie. Mine is set to 5GB.

        I also seed between seed an average of 10 to 1 using qBittorent so I guess I forgot it could be considered a “fuck you” because I always seed.