• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    11 days ago

    Everyone always jokes about the French protesting everything … yet they’re the ones with better worker rights, better social benefits, better public health, better wages … meanwhile, the US never has mass protests and they have the worst worker rights, low wages, low taxes for the rich, high taxes for the poor, no public health care and few supports for the poor yet the country has the wealthiest people in the world.

    There seems to be a pattern and the French figured it out a couple hundred years ago but the Americans haven’t.

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      11 days ago

      When France had issues similar to the USA, people in charge completely lost their heads… Literally

    • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      11 days ago

      Also the average French person understands how democracy works, with paper ballots and checks.

      Americans tend to blindly trust any old oligarch putting up software to vote on. And are incapable of introspection on the matter.

      The two systems are not the same. Like comparing religion and science.

          • limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            10 days ago

            It’s easier for an admin or owner of a closed source computer system to stuff tens of thousands than it is to stuff one ballot.

            In the uk, ballot boxes are watched by volunteers including school children.

            The thing is, in the USA, the exit polls ( where people stand outside and ask how people voted) are significantly off in many states, causing most USA news to not use that in predicting national elections. That is significant in the multi hundred year history of the practice and democracies world wide.

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              10 days ago

              It was a joke but thanks for the very detailed answer which I wholeheartedly agree with.

              Closed source systems suck, they just allow for vulnerabilities to go unchecked. I’m a big proponent for open source solutions.

              Otoh physical items with loads of people involved are indeed harder to tamper with. A viable electronic solution should imho still include those people and physical trails as a backup.

              Never fully trust a treacherous computer :p

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      10 days ago

      I don’t know much about French history, but I’ve always wondered why oppressors would choose to oppress in a country known for actively overthrowing oppressors.

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        10 days ago

        Napoleon, the guy who declared himself emperor, was pretty successful in his oppressive reign.

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    10 days ago

    Sour grapes. We Americans don’t have the balls to hurt our God the ‘Economy’. France is rolling in amazing rights and quality of life.