• SabinStargem@lemmings.world
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    8 days ago

    Ketamine, like any drug, should be thoroughly researched. Whether good, bad, or mixed, the knowledge would be useful.

    In any case, I think that being wealthy is the most dangerous drug of all. It frees you from the consequences of your actions. Being invulnerable from society, prevents you from knowing what it means to be harmed. It is why rich folks tend to be assholes, since they don’t understand the reality of being human. They are more akin to space aliens or dragons.

    …at this point, excessive wealth is something I believe to be a drug that harms society, not individuals.

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      8 days ago

      Ketamine, like any drug, should be thoroughly researched.

      Hey man, go easy on him. He’s researching it as hard as he can, while balancing other responsibilities, like running DOGE. Have you ever tried working for the federal government with a cranium full of ketamine? It’s not as easy as he makes it look.

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      There’s an insane amount of research into ketamine. That’s why they literally use it regularly to sedate children.

      It’s very safe and well tolerated. This shit isn’t about ketamine.

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        There’s a big difference between anesthetic use and recreational abuse tho.

        There isn’t much study on recreational abuse and the few that exist are very damning, from neurotoxicity to straight up brain lacerations. Of course this needs more studying but theres very real chance K abuse has real damage.

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    8 days ago

    They gave my cat ket before they euthanized her. She looked absolutely blissful, but certainly in no fit state to run a government.

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    A fragile ego and sense of entitlement could also explain a lot of it. This comes from experience and, thankfully, at least some people can get better.

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    Hey look, the media blaming drugs for stupid people doing stupid shit.

    This isn’t the ketamine. He would probably be even worse without it.

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    Along with those unsettling side effects, the psychopharmacology researcher and her team also found that regular users scored very high on delusional thinking scales and seemed to be convinced that they were receiving secret messages sent to them alone

    Sounds like him but honestly money and power is probably enough to explain his delusional behaviour

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    8 days ago

    I’m currently taking 80mg ketamine troches and can verify that I am not a sociopathic Nazi.

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    So here’s one thing: all humans are the same.

    It doesn’t matter how evil you are, you are not immune to guilt, when you fuck up millions of people you are going to be affected. They (corrupted rulers) are probably on multiple drugs and pills to patch up their conditions.

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      It doesn’t matter how evil you are, you are not immune to guilt

      Not true. Malignant narcissists like Trump don’t experience guilt, shame, etc.

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        Wrong. They may not experience guilt and shame the same way you do, they may have their own beliefs and sensibility levels but nobody is immune to guilt the same way nobody is immune to physical pain. Nobody is born a malignant narcissist or a money addict. They are compensating.

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    I’m not huge into drugs, can someone explain to me why a billionaire takes ketamine? Isn’t it a prescription painkiller?

    Shouldn’t he be smoking brainstem of an endangered rainforest frog, or some nameless lab chemical synthesized personally for him?

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      I suppose it’s just like most drug addicts, you don’t really choose what you get addicted to or when, something just sort of gets its hooks into you at some point and that’s it.

      Plus if you factor in having essentially no boundaries on your life (ie infinite money and nobody to tell you no or stop you doing anything, being more-or-less above the law, access to high-quality drugs and world-class healthcare) you can probably go on doing stuff like that pretty much indefinitely. IIRC that’s how Keith Richards said he was able to go on doing drugs for so long - he was loaded so he could always get the good stuff that wasn’t mixed with anything.

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      I know it’s hard to phantom, but they have human bodies

      That react to stimulants just like we

      But they aren’t like us

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      I don’t know about ketamine but I have been around people on Amphetamines. He acts like they did. So a guy trying to run 3 companies at the same time would presumably use amphetamines to have the time. You can go for days without sleeping.

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      It’s a dissociative drug that has long been used as a field anesthetic because there’s a very wide range of doses that are both effective and non-lethal. It’s shown promise in recent years as a treatment for depression and certain other conditions that are resistant to traditional treatments. Ketamine is also sort of fun to do recreationally for the affirmation dissociative effects. Elon Musk is basically a drug addict at this point. He’s abusing it way too often and is healthy or safe to do

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      There’s a difference between recreational K use and stuffing it down every opportunity you get. If you’ve done K you know how it looks and Musk looks like that 100% of the time.

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    8 days ago

    Imagine coming out of a K hole and finding that you’ve caused the most powerful nation in the world to collapse.

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    People are too hard on drugs. Drugs are great. the ketamine might be helping for all we know. It’s money and feeling unwanted as a child that has caused this man’s brain damage.

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      You can see the insecure little boy in him so much. Him and Joe Rogan. They are so obviously doing everything in themselves to have some confidence but not even millions and billions of dollars can fill that hole of abandonment.

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      Yeah sad to see so many people here make the same error that the US (and most of the world) did regarding cannabis for 80+ years.

      Stop falling for propaganda like this.

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        The dose makes the poison. I have seen people go from helped by prescription adderall to completely paranoid and detached from reality at high doses.

        It can be both bad for him at his dosages and good for others, and I think most people here have understood that, though maybe I’m being optimistic