It’s blatant extortion now.
According to the US Supreme Court, a US president cannot be prosecuted for crimes (if they’re related to their official duties, but whatever goes, I guess). This means that Canada is faced with the fact that they’re being attacked by a foreign power with a ruler not beholden to the rule of law. If they give in, they’re going to be conquered by a king who is not bound by a national constitution, legislative body, nor courts. This is an existential threat to their freedom as individuals with rights.
If they give in
lol, no. The US are about to rediscover why Canadians were so feared in the world wars. Canada literally exists because we didn’t want to be part of the US. If you want Washington burned down a second time, keep at it.
Gotta go further south this time. Warching Mar-a-Lago burn will be fun.
I’m down, I know the area well. We can call it the March of the Snowbirds.
Turning North America into Canada, South Canada, and Mexico would be a nice sight
If it gives me single payer healthcare? I, for one, welcome our new Canadian overlords.
It’s being dismantled by Conservative provincial governments. And in Ontario at least, people can’t even be bothered to vote for a party that will preserve it. But I’d rather stay an independent country with problems that be taken by the USA.
And as a respected media personality I can help round up others so they may toil in your underground
sugarmaple syrup caves.We have cheese caves, too.
Upper Canada, lower Canada and discount Canada
Well that seems a bit much to call Florida discount Canada, they need to work harder for that title.
Fuckit. I’ll greet the Canadians at the boarder as liberators.
Hey, I’m not gonna complain, might even cheer you on. This administration is off the rails already and we are barely a few months in.
Yeah, we need an adult to come save us.
Many of us will welcome you with open arms.
…
Do you promise? That doesn’t sound so bad, tbh.Something something “greeted as liberators” only for real
You promise!? I’ll bring the popcorn
Don’t tease us. You’re getting some of us excited here.
I don’t understand their endgame here. I’m sure they could take over Canada by force if they wanted, but keeping it is a whole other matter. They should have learned from the many wars they fought that occupying land the locals don’t want you to occupy sucks.
They think the economic damage alone will be enough to make us give up. It didn’t work in 1890 and it won’t work today. We will survive on lentils and water if it means we get to defend our country.
Well, that and also the fact that Canadians currently see the US as a severely indebted dumpster fire where the system is specifically designed to exploit and oppress its citizens for the profit of the few. A police state where cops can assault, rob, unlawfully imprison and murder anyone without repercussion, where your insurance company will deny you life saving treatments to make more money despite charging you twice what Canadians pay for their own health insurance through their slightly higher taxes, where the cost of education is absurdly prohibitive and social mobility is nonexistent, where it is legal to pay someone a salary that is not even enough to keep them lodged and fed while working over 50 hours a week on several jobs, where corporations can sell you food containing ingredients that are known to be harmful to your health, where religious zealots with belief systems that belong to the dark ages wield significant political power, where citizens are locked up for simple violations while rich people get away with murder, where entertainment TV shows can spew out pure disinformation while calling themselves “
FOXNews” where Corporations are being given human rights that take priority over real humans and their political donations are considered “free speech”, where any moron can buy a gun without even having a single clue on how to use it safely and where the violent crime rate is through the roof, all that while chanting about being the greatest country on Earth.And that was before we even take Trump into consideration. But hey, he said we could keep our anthem because he likes it and that we’d pay lower taxes. So I guess that makes it worth it now?
Hey, that’s my view of the US too, from ground zero!
if canada is threatened they can just cut out all traffic to ALASKA, starve the state.
This abministration wouldn’t give a shit.
I hope that people in the Pentagon remember that following illegal orders is a crime, too, and you cannot be forced to do so. Something established in Nürnberg when they took care of the Nazis.
An order to attack Canada, Mexico, Greenland, or Panama would basically be such an illegal order.
This is not the first time the US has made up bullshit in order to attack a country: WMDs in Iraq, communism in Vietnam, Russia said there were nazis in Ukraine to justify that war. The military only needs a lie and then it’s not illegal anymore. The lies are already circulating. “canada is communist” “canada hurts the US”
You’re going to have a hard time getting Americans to rally behind shooting at the polite white people next door. I really don’t think even the Republican propaganda machine could make that happen.
Then you will never cease to be amazed by the depths of Trump fanaticism, because they absolutely would fall in line. It’s not the Republican machine, merely a vestigial organ to the Trump cult that has taken over its host.
You’re going to have a hard time getting Americans to rally behind shooting at the polite white people next door. I really don’t think even the Republican propaganda machine could make that happen.
There are plenty of infinitely dumb trumpers who will blindly follow whatever he says, though. I’d bet a majority of the people in the military support him.
You’re going to have a hard time getting Americans to rally behind shooting at the polite white people next door.
Yet Trump was able to get his followers to enthuaiastically attack an American institution of government…
That’s comparatively very easy. Americans instinctively mistrust all governments, and especially their own. America was founded on hatred and mistrust of government, and those roots run deep. But we have no actual beef with Canada and the Canadian people. And sure, the Republican propaganda machine can try to invent one, but I just don’t think it will stick. It’s easy to target the scary poor brown foreigners coming in from the southern border, but people just won’t believe you when you try to demonize Canadians, because they’re basically the same as us culturally.
Most people aren’t freaking out right now because they don’t take Trump literally. You’d think that they would have learned better by now, but one of Trump’s legitimate talents is that he has an almost supernatural ability to get people to selectively believe what he says: they believe the things they like and think he’s just bullshitting about everything else. If something actually happens with Canada, people will wake up fast.
Unfortunately, I think a Panama invasion is more likely, and I actually doubt that most Americans will be so upset in that situation.
The Republican propaganda machine has already convinced a bunch of people who grew up during the cold war that Russia is now the good guys. It’ll take some time, but I don’t doubt they could do it.
Lol the Pentagon isn’t afraid to fake evidence to support an invasion. Remember the aluminium tubes? Remember yellow cake uranium? I remember.
Pepperidge farms remembers
When have illegal wars ever stopped the Americans?
I’m sorry but let’s not forget that Iraq was a thing.
I’m not sure it’s technically illegal, and I’m very doubtful that the current judiciary would find it so. But it is unconscionable. And insane.
It’s not technical illegal at all. Nothing he does is. The Supreme Court made him king.
If troops do illegal shit, the U.S. judicial system is one of several places they could possibly be held accountable.
They won’t be held accountable in USA with him as supreme leader.
… And you think the trump government cares about some German town (as trump would explain that)?
He has the memory of a cod and the backbone of a slug, this is all bluster and he’ll cave the moment anyone he knows tells him otherwise.
Strongman my ass
In case people don’t realize. Canada shares an Arctic border with Russia and Russia is trying to take Canadian land and regularly crosses into our waters to steal resources. It is of benefit to Putin for Canada to be weak and distracted by Trump, since Trump works for Putin, it’s very clear why he’s doing this
Please remember that all this is noise to hide the great billionaire sacking of america. Smoke screen.
I genuinely thinks he also wants to annex canada though
It’s very interesting that he is criminalizing climate change, while seeking to take over the lands that would benefit from climate change.
There’s another fella across the ocean that is accelerating climate change because it will benefit his country.
Remember Greenland… He seems like he forgot now.
He’s still saying he wants to invade Greenland and Panama.
Two days ago he had the head of NATO with him in the Betrayal Room of the Oval Office and he talked about annexing Greenland.
The press was there (of course) so there’s video of it, not as shouty as the Ukraine betrayal, but Trump is still busy with betraying every single ally of the US.
If he makes Canada a state, he loses control of Congress.
He would never do that.
He would never let Canadians vote. He may never let Americans vote again.
Are you really delusional enough to believe this?
Is this really how far gone you people are on these forums?
Or he could go the Puerto Rico route.
Great take. I agree. We know this from Project 2025. Keep an eye on it but don’t let it distract. Trump and cronies are using a strategy coined flood the zone to prevent coordinated opposition against them in politics and media.
I’m Canadian, I don’t have the luxury of treating it like a lie. If we’re wrong, and he means it, I lose my home and my way of life. I have to treat it as a serious threat. I have to try and make sure my nation is ready for the worst outcome imaginable - a fight where we can’t win, we won’t surrender and where everything I’ve ever been taught tells me to die for my country.
Old age, bomb or bullet - one way or the other, I’m dying a Canadian.
Have these random programs actually helped Americans?
To my naive view, would America not he better served with a far more progressive tax system, in lieu of spending these large sums to foreign countries and various agencies that squander what could be given to the poor?
In what world is giving the poor more money directly not he an effective means of raising their standard of living, which should be the main point of a progressive government?
Thanks, now Canada can more easily commit to exporting its energy and resources to Asia and Europe.
Canada will outlive Trump.
Yeah. Hopefully Canada can completely detach from the cancer that my home country has become. And same goes for everywhere else.
For the greater good of the rest of the planet- everyone needs to cut ties with this festering disease of a “nation.” And I sincerely hope it happens.
Keep an eye on the Bering Strait though. A lot of Magats in Alaska, they might leave your back door open.
Yeah, but it’s a big PITA. Gotta expand ports and have long lines at existing ports which means pollution and blight. Lots of benefit to having a sane trade partner within truck/train/pipeline range. Having to steer around a crazy grandpa means thinner margins and more risk.
Canada will outlive Trump.
I would expect so. Trump is already on IVs.
We’ve been subjected to costs that we shouldn’t be subjected to. In the case of Canada, we’re spending 200 billion a year to subsidize Canada. I love Canada, I love the people of Canada. I love I have many friends in Canada. The great one, Wayne Gretzky, the great. Hey, how good is Wayne Gretzky? He’s a great one.
why tf does the media present this as anything other than unhinged dementia word salad
Is Quayle still alive? He’s gotta be pissed about the “potatoe” thing.
I have no idea what the fuck he’s talking about in terms of “subsidizing” Canada. Either he has absolutely no idea how trade defects work or he’s purposefully playing dumb since apparently Canada needs the US less than the US needs Canada
Assuming he believes his words (as opposed to using rhetoric to get what he or someone around him wants, in either case unfortunately, I think he’s serious). I think he sees anything purchased from another country as “subsidizing” that country. To him, its money the US had that Canada now has. I sometimes think he somehow thinks the US should be given things, because…??? Every transaction has to have a “winner” and a “looser” and whoever has a + on the balance sheet is the winner, it doesn’t matter what that + really means. (I can only bend my logic so far to try to figure these things out)
I think thats pretty much it. For trump there are no relationships or compromises. Every single thing is about winning or losing. Eating is him winning against the food.
Yeah orange shitgibbon should STOP buying from Canada. No one is forcing the US to buy anything from us. Don’t need it - fine! Now fuck right off! Don’t buy something from Canada and then scream that you have a deficit with Canada!! Fucking moron.
He’s weaponizing his very armed sycophants against Canada. And is warming the rest of the world up to annexing us. Dementia Don said it AGAIN tripling down on the obscenity today while sitting next to the chair of NATO Mark Rutte, and Rutte the COWARD and CRAVEN piece of shit, said nothing while Shittler shat out of his mouth 51st state nonsense and arbitrary border horseshit.
Carney should not meet with Frump. Fuck it. It’s appeasement. There’s no going back on this, no apology could suffice from the US. This is fucking DONE.
I know trying to make sense of the stupidity that is Trump’s “plan” for America is a lost cause. But why do they speak like turning Canada into a singular state makes any god damn sense??
Also, is war inevitable? I honestly don’t know. Shit is not looking good. If war breaks out, I would find a way to flee and volunteer to fight on the opposing side. No way am I supporting my country on the wrong side of history.
The US could attack Canada and they could take our cities in Southern Ontario easily, however, that would instantly deputize everyone else and there would be tens of millions of insurgents fighting asymmetrical warfare forever more. We would also destroy all the assets the US sought to take from us cause Canadians are vindictive AF. If we can’t have what’s rightfully ours neither can US invaders.
As a Minnesotan. I would never fight our northern neighbors. Fuck our government, nobody wants this except trump and his cronies.
But he commands the military. So there is that.
As a Seattlite, I’d be right there with ya if you’d have me.
the Greater Seattle Polycule could be turned into an underground resistance movement
Do you have a gun? Do you have ammo? Do you know how to use it? Do you have relevant and useful skills for a resistance? If not, what’s stopping you?
I know gun ranges in America are packed right now.
We’d need you.
Dang right, We’d be happy to have ya!
There would be insurgency in the lower 48 as well.
I’d rather you take that “fighting attitude” and use it to prevent Trump from achieving any of his goals.
He’s already doing massive amounts of damage to America and there are very few people pushing back in any effective way.
I wonder if “concern of a future us invasion” is a reason that disqualifies you from getting a PAL
Apparently lessons are booked months ahead already, everyone’s educating themselves.
Well I guess I should book now, thanks
Download the manual from the RCMP regardless. Study it, if they invade you will likely come across a fire arm, and it would be best if you knew the very basics.
Yes indeedy!
today seems like a good day to remember David Fagen, an American soldier who defected to fight for the Philippines against the American invasion and is remembered as a hero for it in the modern era
Yeah, I definitely don’t have loyalty to fascism. Being autistic and leftist, they will want me dead. Here’s hoping that I can help in some useful way.
I think war against Panama is far more likely. The idea of annexing Canada is wildly unpopular among both Democrats and Republicans. The best you could get away with is an EU type economic union. We already have some in the military who have said they won’t invade our allies.
A full on war against Canada is unlikely. Maybe a single battle?
Sabaton is gonna have so much material to work with in the coming years.
This is what I hope – that there are enough actual patriots, people who believe in the Rule of Law and the principles our Republic was built on, and resist. That military commands will rebel, that people will be gathering OSInt for Canada, and saboteurs and vandals and lone wolves start making things miserable for the administration and anyone who supports them.
No. War isn’t inevitable. People have nukes and definitely will use them if needed. In other words, a cold war might occur, but maybe not regular war at least not in North America.
Trump can be talked down by people that understand reality, but not always. Putin, a much more intelligent leader, thought his invasion of Ukraine would be over in a week and look how that worked out for Russians.
I honestly think the “better” thing to do is stay inside and try to sabotage the aggressors. This would obviously require a great deal of cunning and bravery.
If you want to really sabotage the war effort, use the war to push for state secession from the union, particularly if you’re in a blue state. Most of the blue states are economic engines that keep the rest of the machine ticking. If they leave, or try to, that’ll be a huge kick in the nuts to any war effort.
Honest endgame here.
And if the coastal states are doing it you might even get a left-right alliance in Texas to support secession.
A land war at the border would give him justification to deploy military domestically for “defense”.
War? Remember that we’re talking about nuclear war. That is possible of course, but many people with brains would try to stop Trump from starting it. Would they succeed? Who knows.
When the President of the United States says this shit, is it okay now to say - as a Canadian - that I wonder why more Americans aren’t trying to kill him yet? Like, what the hell is going on? HE IS GOING TO GET US ALL KILLED.
Do you expect the average American to just be able to stroll up to him with a gun and shoot him? We’re literally a police state. He’s got secret service watching him. It’s complicated, and if somebody was successful they would be throwing away their own entire life guaranteed.
That kid nearly did it. Soon there will be fake trumps like the fake Putin’s.
Give me a gun and a strategy to get close enough and I would gladly sacrifice my life. It’s THAT fucking important at this point.
Nothing changes until people are willing to put their own lives at risk.
For what? Another will take his place. There’s no shortage of people pushing for project 2025 and supporting his political policies. It’s not just trump.
Then you do the same to the next one. And the one after that. And the one after that. Until someone gets up there and decides he/she doesn’t want it happening to them too.
The point isn’t that there’s “going to be another”…that’s just defeatism. The point is to make them realise that they will NEVER be safe. That there are people willing to do anything to see them strung up by their ankles in a town square.
Courage is contagious.
It’s not defeatism, at all, it’s the recognition of an ineffective method of resolving things. Real life isn’t a movie where things just work out when you do stupid shit.
History disagrees with you.
No despot in history has ever fallen without violence. Hell, your own, country was built on that fact.
At exactly what point did America go from “the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots” to “this is an ineffective means of resolving things.”?
Political violence that will make change will be larger scale and organized, not individuals trying to kill a bad president, or two, or three.
i agree with the other person who replied.
Those two attempts failed. Now he isn’t on the campaign trail and he has the world’s best security. The only people that can take him down are an army at this point.
The only people that can take him down are an army at this point.
Incidentally, the US Army is among those who are oath bound to depose Donald Trump.
This is why I’m so confused they’re not doing anything. Especially since the Trump admin is actively attacking the military.
Kinda concerning, but then what isn’t nowadays.
The world’s best security that almost saved the world twice with their incompetence?
Yea there’s still hope for America yet.
I’m still not sure if that was planned incompetence or not.
Oh you mean the photo op that just so happened to catch the perfect picture of mr traitor tampon ear?
Yea not a scratch on that worthless filthy fucking trash bag of an empty head.
I don’t buy it either. But one can dream…
I would think no, but considering that I posted the article, I’d leave it for other mods to act on if necessary.
A bit of a grey area to me as it’s just wondering, not actually suggesting.
There HAS to be news that’s not being covered about shit like this. I refuse to believe that in a country of nearly 400 million people there aren’t a few with good sense
I think they think it’s futile, since bullets didn’t work. But we have other means. Like remote controlled flying things.
I’m just really really disappointed in Time. Like, you had ONE JOB.
I won’t mention on the “bullets didn’t work” comment. But have you ever heard the word “yet”?
The guy is threatening to annex my fucking country. If you have problems with me wishing harm upon your self-proclaimed conqueror, you can eat my leaf. (not you specifically, of course)
Trump seems to like Napoleon’s quote that “He who saves his Country does not violate any Law.” And while I don’t want you to get hurt, it seems that an executive action from your new PM would be saving his country from a foreign threat.
You’d be doing us a favor.
Again? Like Iraq? Like Afghanistan? Sorry, I’m not pissed at you. But, like, what the fuck? At least people are setting Teslas on fire there now. That’s a START.
My pet conspiracy theory is that there’s already been multiple attempts since Butler, but they aren’t being publicized because they don’t want to encourage others.
i agree. it’s probably starting to get a bit hotter now that all those teslas are burning up. maybe they’ll just start arresting protesters. Oh, they deport them now? Oh, they’re terrorists now?
do americans even know what the words “terrorist” or “patriot” or “democracy” even mean any more?
That wouldn’t surprise me. I live in awe of he fact that he’s not dodging bullets all day every day.
I think it’s just because people still have hope that the systems will work as usual and right the ship. I think a lot of people are waiting to see what happens with this administration’s reaction to court orders, etc. But I think that we’re going to start spawning radicalized reactionaries soon.
i like your reply. i’ll take it a step further. i grew up in the US south of the M-D line. What follows are just my personal thoughts:
Americans are busy, and most of them are far too busy to spend the kind of time that i get to spend online reading and learning about this stuff. a lot of Americans (and people in general) don’t like school and didn’t do well in school. and teachers don’t get to do what they want to do. it’s all so fucking frustrating. why does America kill its education budget for the sake of advertising the military during football games?
oh, and by the way, you need to rename that to something like “Americaball” or something. Someone truth Trump.
anyways, people are by and far too busy to care about anything more than soundbites now, and he’s the bullshitter in chief. when you have a couple of kids and work 12 hours every day just to keep the collectors away for a while, what time do you have for protests?
i guess it would be tenable if we still lived in communities, but now we’re all too smart to go to church… and this is a whole new thought, but we need to all start going to church. they’re pumping out little evangies, so we should subvert the church. make church god again!
We need to guarantee payment to whoever steps up, and make sure that their family is looked after for life.
The Luigi who saves us all will be hailed as a hero around the world for decades. World leaders would congratulate them for preventing countless needless deaths, and future dictators won’t fuck around for very long before finding out.
sorry for the 4-day delay. teslas are now ablaze in america. i love the way this is all moving. we won’t be stopped. look at the numbers. what will it take to convince their foot soldiers that they’re being fucked, too? in that - ironically - i have faith in Elon Musk.
Who the fuck is Trump to decide if we’re a sovereign country or not.
At this point: Death to Trump. Murder Trump. Eradicate Trump.
I’ll fight and die for this country.
TRUMP DESERVES DEATH!!!
Fuck Trump. Loser cannot die soon enough.
fucking Luigi this guy for God’s sake anyone
it wouldn’t be soon enough if he died 25 years ago.
His death won’t solve our problems. We’ll have Trump adjacent Russian puppet who will run and win. Trump has admitted to fixing the election, so the r’s know they can repeat their strategy again effectively.
Hopefully after the next election. We wouldn’t wanna have Adolph Vance do something stupid. Like a few days to a week should be fine. Meanwhile I’d be totally fine with an increasing level of dementia? Like maybe he declares war on Mexico on Sunday, but then travels there for vacation Tuesday, then Wednesday he declares war on Mexico again from Mexico. It could get interesting. So long as he shuts down the government for most of the year, were good.
Personally hoping he just drops dead, but that a week or two beforehand, he and Loveseat have some public falling out about…something, honestly the specifics don’t matter. Hell, it could even be something that never actually happened and is just the dementia taking hold. Point is, if he rages against Vance on Truth or wherever and then keels over, every qanon dumbfuck in creation is going to collectively cream their pants over that shiny new conspiracy, and while we will technically be stuck with President Loveseat, that would nerf the fuck out of him.
Sounds like a novel. Well with any luck I hope you’re right.
I want off this ride.
Yeah. I think many of us do.
It’s incredible. Trump lost it a long time ago. He has no connection to reality. He’s mentally disabled. Yet world leaders now have to seriously respond to the incoherent shit that falls out of his mouth.
Is it even him talking, or someone behind his back rotating him around to scream in one direction or another?
He’s actually more coherent than during his first presidency. They must be coaching the shit out of him.
STFU about this fucking petulant imperialist nonsense. 40 million insurgents is what this orange fuckface will get. US is not getting one fucking square CENTIMETRE of Canadian land. I used metric on purpose too. fuck the USA.
It’ll be more than that. There’ll be millions of Americans who won’t stand for it either. To think of it though, that might be the point. Something so heinous, yet legal (barely), that it legitimately compromises our security and forces martial law and a state of emergency he can exploit.
If he enforced martial law that’s within the US borders. I’ve never heard of a country being under martial law then invading another country but someone please enlighten me. He clearly wants to incite violence, I’m reading Stephen Marche’s The Next Civil War and Marche argues quite effectively that while he doesn’t know what the inciting event will be, the violence willl come from the right.
Ever heard of the third Reich?
Of course I’ve heard about it, I’m not a historian so I don’t know all the details about how Germany went about it’s expansionist war other then the basic stuff . Did Hitler declare martial law and then invade Poland and Austria Hungary etc??
Basically yes. It didn’t go well for him eventually.
JFC I guess that’s what Turnip is gearing up to do. He already declared a bullshit national emergency at the border with Canada. Which was complete verifiable bullshit.
He’s following basically the same playbook that Putin did when he invaded Ukraine.
Hitler put the military on the border of chekoslovakia, made noises about protecting the German minority in the Sudetenland. British Prime minister negotiated the transfer of the Sudetendland from Chekoslovakia to Germany. All the fortifications the Checks military had built were in the Sudetenland. A few months later the Germans rolled in and took the rest of the country nearly unopposed. Germany signed a deal with Austria taking political control there, then they made a deal splitting Poland with the USSR. The Poles saw what happened to the Checks and resolved to fight it out reminding Britain and France that they have a defence pact but they didn’t know about the deal the Germans had with the Soviets, so Poland got invaded on both sides.
Britain and France declared war but they needed time to get their militaries rolling. Germany brought the army over to the French border, then the Germans invaded the Netherlands and Belgium. Went around the French defences and took Paris. Britain got their people out of France at Dunkirk. Germany bombed Britain but didn’t have the navy to invade so they turned around again and attacked the USSR, and that’s where it started going to shit for them.
Thanks for the details. Appreciated.
You missed 3 events. The fucking POS Hitler threw the entire German army into Poland leaving a token force to protect the western border and the French could have easily marched into Berlin. In addition, the French and British completely failed to help Poland. If you read the Polish campaign after action reports, from the German field commanders, they revealed severe deficiencies and recommended halting all offensive operations until 1943 to make the improvements. All of it was ignored, the best Wehrmacht generals were sent to desk duty and only the yes officers were given command. Sounds familiar? The perfect recipe for losing.
Yeah the British and French made some serious mistakes early on.
Martial law AND a war at the same time would stretch the military pretty damn thin.
Meet the police, the new soldiers, now under command of the Anti Terrorism Command.
Trump needs to be removed for this and it’s not an exaggeration to say there are at least a dozen other unconstitutional things he’s done that he should be removed for as well. But the GOP-held congress doesn’t care about the constitution either so this is only going to continue to get worse.
Who ever would have guessed that a serial rapist wouldn’t take, “No”, for an answer?
