Summary

Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon revealed that MAGA operatives are “working on” securing Donald Trump a third presidential term in 2028, despite constitutional term limits.

In an interview with Chris Cuomo, Bannon said, “We’ll see what the definition of term limit is,” suggesting they’re exploring ways to circumvent the 22nd Amendment.

Recently released from prison after serving four months for contempt of Congress, Bannon placed second in a CPAC straw poll for 2028 GOP nominees behind JD Vance, while maintaining tensions with Trump adviser Elon Musk.

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      30 days ago

      Of course they do, but the issue is that too much of Trump’s control over their base is from his cult of personality (somehow), not the plan itself. They don’t know how to replace that. Yet.

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        Musk is hoping to be next. Yes, constitution doesn’t allow it, but they don’t intend to follow it anyway.

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          That’s why they’re so interested in making Canada part of the US. His mom is Canadian. If Canada becomes part of the US he becomes a natural born US citizen and becomes eligible to run for president. And this is one of many reasons we cannot allow ourselves to become part of the US.

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            They absolutely do not need Canada for this.

            We are living in a post-truth world. The MAGA right do not care about the law, the facts, or even what is right.

            They want power. By any means necessary.

            FOX and OAN will run pieces about how Musk was born here in the states and was moved to South Africa to help run his emerald mines. They will draw up fake birth certificates, change birth records in hospitals to show he was born on an Army Base in Texas.

            They’ll even find the doctor that ushered his delivery.

            And the Right will eat it up.

            The sad thing is Trump has the means to make all of this possible. This is not figurative.

            This is the nightmare scenario. And Musk will not let go of power.

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            What are the rules surrounding recognition as a state? Does Canada need to accept it or is there some mechanism by which the US can just say “we regard Canada as the 51st state” and as far as American law is concerned it’s now part of the USA, even if it isn’t on reality?

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          The constitution also doesn’t allow an insurrectionist to be president, but here we are.

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    Trump will be 79 in 2 months, at 83 he himself wont be around to run in 2028, but MAGA would still be there and that’s what we should be fighting. I mean sadly and similarly Bernie Sanders wouldnt be around to run in 2028, but his movement is what we should be carrying

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    29 days ago

    Anyone surprised at this is unqualified for political office.

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    Time to 2A up to protect yourselves America. Only a copper jacketed hollow point between freedom and tyranny.

    FYI I know nothing about ammo other than what I hear in movies or TV.

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    If Presidents can run for a third term, I want to watch Trump get destroyed by Obama, when he also runs for a third term.

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      You don’t think they’re covering that contingency?

      They rules they have formulated and want to pass as law are that the first two terms must not be consecutive. This would preclude Obama from having a third term.

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        I remember reading they want to adjust it to “two consecutive terms”. Which would invalidate Obama through their mental gymnastics

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          I think that’s the rule Putin and Medvedev used. They alternated to get around the consecutive term rule.

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      I don’t think they mean presidents (plural) could run for the third term.

      There will also be a rule if one of the contestants is going for their third term it’s an automatic win & no opposing runners can join the game.

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      Just like Biden used the SCOTUS immunity ruling to legally assassinate trump?

      Democrats will not ever break precedent.

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    We’ll see what the definition of term limit is

    It’s right there in the amendment:

    No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

    Donald Trump was elected twice. He is ineligible to be elected again.

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      According to Trump and many many in the GOP, he was elected three times.

      After two years into this term, he will be disqualified twice from running again.

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      If I had to put money on it, I’d guess they contest the legitimacy of the next election, and he just refuses to step down - can only be elected twice, but he’s just there as a care taker until a proper election can happen

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          29 days ago

          Martial law lets you arrest people without trial, but it doesn’t directly allow you to just not hold an election, and you can only declare it “unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it”.

          I guess you could come up with some pretence then impose martial law and make it clear that anyone voting the wrong way is going to get arrested, but at that point why bother with laws at all?

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      Actually, reading the language again, I can absolutely see some shenanigans where he runs as VP for someone else who runs on a platform of “vote for me and I’ll immediately resign and put Trump in charge again”. It’d need the supreme court to decide if that “and” is exclusive or not, and given that half the court seems pretty happy to give up their principles of it suits their politics, I wouldn’t be surprised if that worked

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        This seems like the most straightforward scenario. Nothing prevents trump running, or being elected, as Vice President, on the understanding that the duely elected President will step down on day 1. When they wrote the constitution, they didn’t bank on a populist fascist, so the language assumes everyone plays fair.

        Whether trump is in any state to do anything by then is a different question. If they find someone more useful they may simply shuffle him out of the game by declaring him mentally incompetant.

        The absolute best case scenario is that they’re just saying this because they know it outrages non-magas, and they love doing that. I’ve not seen much to support that as the probable outcome though.

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      It says “elected”, but what is the president isn’t elected? They will find a way, and with recent reality bending Supreme Court decisions or won’t even be so hard.

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      Yeah. The constitution also says anyone who starts a fucking insurrection is also ineligible and yet here we are.

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        Can’t wait for the Supreme Court to agree that since the 22nd Amendment doesn’t specify who enforces that the president can’t be elected, that it means Congress has to actively pass a law saying he can’t run.

        That’s what ultimately happened with the Colorado case.

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      no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once

      Unfortunately, there’s an obvious loophole right there that they will argue for. The 22nd Amendment doesn’t say that Trump can’t be VP and take over as President on Day One. It just restricts how many times he can be elected as the President. He could theoretically run as VP and have an enabler run as President an indefinite number of times - there are no limits to the number of times somebody can be elected as VP: https://www.factcheck.org/2008/04/vp-term-limits/

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          Ah, good catch. I’d forgotten about that. Apparently the 12th Amendment should narrow that loophole significantly:

          But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

          Honestly, the whole insurrection thing should disqualify him anyway, but again they’d probably argue that he’s not ineligible for the office of President, he just can’t be elected to it due to the 22nd Amendment.

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    There is nothing to work on, unless you think 3/4rds of state legislatures will agree to amend the constitution so that Trump can have a third term. Not gonna happen. The only way they could attempt this would be to violate the constitution.

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      The more people say it’s impossible, the less.they consider the options that, though wayyy out there, are how they have found ways to do what they’ve already done.

      There may not be a single obvious loophole, but a cascade of loops -a Möbius loophole -is how they approach things.

      Do not forget his remarks recently about the big mid term surprise and blue states : “they may disappear off the map completely”

      Not sure how you feel about that, but even in trump’s verbal diarrhoea, that seems a terrifyingly ominous statement.

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    Isn’t it great that all of these traitors to democracy are showing themselves and their plans in plain sight? Now the American people just need to decide how to respond.

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      Why do people keep responding to this like laws and tradition meananything?

      What does anyone think will be different this time??

      The leader of an insurrection delayed investigations until getting reelected, threatened and fired people who dared to look at him sideways, and is unapologetically defying a judge’s orders while using his sentient moneybag to openly bribe politicians who say they’re willing to impeach a judge for not agreeing with the president (going against the warnings of the supreme court).

      Where are our papers and pens going to get the power to do anything about it when all the power sits with the president? I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, anyone who pushes back hard enough is going to experience The Night of the Long Knives.

      I genuinely think we are days to weeks away from seeing a politician become a political prisoner. And even then, headlines will ask “are we inching closer to fascism?” And people will say, “this is what the laws are for. We just have to wait for the system to work.”

      Lex Luthor has taken over Metropolis and is killing anyone standing up to him, Lois Lane is sobbing over Clark Kent’s mangled corpse while Jimmy Olsen assures her that Superman will show up any moment now and everything will be okay. At that same time, Perry White is telling the printer to run the headline “Luthor Shoots 61 Citizens in one day, Experts say This Could be Illegal”

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    Time to really get to know our communities and our people in the military. The only justice imaginable coming from this is a coup in one form or another to oust them. Anyone in the military that is actually on board with this needs to be purged by the rank and file.

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        I swear to God you can hear all the grease caked inside his body when he speaks. That wheezing, wandering, droning voice has had a few too many Big Macs.

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        Amphetamines.

        During the last election he went on a big ramble about how Biden is probably on amphetamines for stamina. Sounded like he was telling on himself.

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    Hey yo, while we’re cutting jobs I heard the secret service costs the government billions and isn’t even secret, we best tell Musk on X and use a thinky emoji to show how smart that observation is.