The title is err, not correct because the top 2 alternatives Opera and Arc are based on Chromium engine. I have seen tons of people swear by Arc, but I am seriously asking (since as a Linux user I can’t use it), how much good can a browser be in this day and age if ultimately it’s ad blocking breaks and it will since Manifest v2 will go soon(unless Arc folks have a solution for it)
The rest alternatives are Firefox, Zen (FF fork but honestly Atleast this was something new I learned from this article) and Tor (which is weird since it is not meant for normal web browsing and using it will not only be slow but put additional strain on the nodes, correct me if I am wrong).
Firefox
Firefox
Firefox
Firefox derivatives
…Great opportunity to mention Brave is owned by a dipshit right-wing homophobe.
Always has been.
Right beside the fact that their monetary model relies on user activity tracking. Yet they advertise privacy.
A browser that had a seemingly unlimited budget for advertising before it even had users is suspicious as hell.
I’ve never trusted brave.
And funded by a right-wing billionaire who owns the largest corporate intelligence agency on the planet. Your data is not safe with Brave.
Except your data not being safe with Brave doesn’t depend on who owns it. It’s a technical conclusion that should follow from technical traits of a system. Those are such that using a modern web browser to do modern web things is not secure period.
You identify as a liberal politically, don’t you?
I didn’t see Waterfox mentioned in the article or comments, so I’m giving it a shout out now. Firefox is still my #1 browser, which I have synced to all my critical accounts, and use very cautiously, only using a few trustwothy extensions. However, when I want to explore unfamiliar domains or experiment with lesser-known browser extensions, I’ve relied on the equally dependable Waterfox browser. It’s fast, free, and 99% the same as Firefox except it’s a completely different app so you can basically have 2 Firefoxes set up and customized for completely different roles. Between the two, I can keep Chrome frozen on my phone and off my desktop (although I have a portable Chromium on USB for emergencies).
You do know Firefox has profiles you can use to effectively make it two (or more) separate browsers?
Not shitting on Waterfox, just FYI.
Of that list, Zen is the only one really worth considering. And then you have the “but the best one that supports widevine” issue.
Zen is also being developed by an asshole who doesn’t even understand the code he’s working on, by his own admission. I wonder if he’s fixed the backdoor he added to it yet.
Firefox is still great, and Tor Browser is fantastic.
I’m personally checking out Mullvad Browser.
Tor is good for onion sites, but do people use it for general web browsing? Wouldn’t it be super slow?
Yes, and you should too because more “natural” traffic helps protect people who need it (journalists, political dissidents, etc). For mostly text content, it’s fine.
Sure, if you want to wait 3 minutes for your all-text site to load.
Eww opera, at least it’s slightly better than opera gx
Edit: TOR? I stopped treating this guy seriously once I read this. Nobody uses TOR for regular browsing. They’re full of shit.
I tried Opera GX because it advertised the ability limit RAM consumption, and then I found out that the lowest it could go was 1GB which was not as low as I wanted.
Some bullshit. If you want to lower raw then just close out your tabs
Ironically, I could not reach the end of the list because the fucking ads kept reloading the page and scrolling me to the top. Anyone know which of these 6 would block that?
Anything Firefox based with uBlock origin. Don’t see a single ad or anything on mine.
I saw a thing for their newsletter and some related articles. But that’s it. uBlock Origin FTW.
Additionally I have noscript extension so no JavaScript running as well
This is just a list of browsers with apparently good tab management.
Firefox can do so too with TST or one of the other extensions in the store. Sometimes(atleast for me), they introduce slightly more lag when opening the browser but otherwise, they can do much of the job. I use Tree Style Tabs even though I might not be a power user of it (read:not actively using every nitty gritty of the extension).
I agree. I’m a pretty happy Firefox user. I am not a power-user of tabs anyway, I try to keep my open tabs to a minimum.
- Opera
Aaaand tab closed.
This list to me feels like AI trying to average the commoner internet
And the comments here really show it
Anyone have any thought on Orion? I know it lets you use chrome and Firefox extensions and safari/macos features. Is this the right direction or a triple hitter of danger?
No Linux or Android support, so I literally can’t tell you.
I use Firefox and Firefox forks.
That’s what I was assuming till I got curious. I found this an hour later I posted my first comment: https://lemm.ee/post/52205220 About a year ago they started working on a Linux version. I think I saw a GitHub repo on a quick search.
If they make a flatpak available, I’ll give it a shot.
Linux
GitHub
Org here. They have four repos:
- Notes - readme and a license, no code
- iOS app open - blank readme
- DarkMode - <30 line script
- Programmable buttons - random macOS-specific XML files, no actual code
I hope that changes, but for now their repo is essentially empty.
Chrome is not the same thing as Chromium.
Its as good as. when Google decides to remove manifest v2 support, it is removed from chromium, right?
Putting aside whether it’s “as good as”, it’s still not.
Ok. But what’s the problem with chrome right now? They’re killing ad block. But they’re not actually, chromium is.
So anytime someone says “I’m leaving chrome because they suck for killing ad block” they mean “I’m leaving chromium because they suck for killing ad block”.
Does that clarification help then?
There is no clarification required. Nothing you said indicates that Chrome = Chromium.
Chrome in a trench coat, if you will
Me using Firefox until Orion comes out:
Orion will be restricted to Apple ecosystems, no?
It currently is, but they are shipping a Linux version this year.
Hm…not sure, if I want to support another Webkit browser
We need more diversity in web engines
Honestly I wish Kagi would build their own full Firefox fork and maintain it independently. I already pay for search, I wouldn’t mind paying for my browser if it actually respected me!
mullvad’s browser is based on firefox.
Do any of these sync with the Firefox Android app? Or do they have their own?
Firefox sync works on all Firefox forks (I’m using LibreWolf on Linux and Fennec on Android for example)
Same here, best combo
Did Fennec resurrect?
Was it dead? If it was: Yes. Last update 15d ago (on the F-Droid version).
It was. I was using it for a year or two until a couple of months ago when it seemed abandoned. Moved to IronFox in the meantime.
Good to hear it’s up and running. Thanks!
Firedragon (a Floorp-Firefox mod) has its own sync server by default. But “Share/Send to” from Android Firefox to PC Firedragon works out of the box.
Oh wow, thanks! How do they sustain the hosting costs? Donations?
You’re welcome.
I don’t know about hosting costs. I do know that Firedragon is a side project of Garuda Linux, a volunteer-developed distro with a Donate page.
Don’t tempt me into distro-hopping again ;)
I may get some hate for this but Safari is superior IMO. Especially with the private relay I get with my iCloud+ plan.
lol why are people downvoting this? Safari is a great browser.
People just love to hate on Apple. The true premier US American company.
Yep. Edge for work, Safari for personal.
ZDnet 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
Chrome !=Chromium. The tite is correct.
Google could close the Chromium source at any time. There might be promises and provisions that they’ll never do that, but if they do, who has the money to sue them? And who, of those, can’t be bought?
“So what, people can run with the last good codebase!”
Sure, until there’s a critical bug that Google don’t publish which then cripples Chromium until the maintainers figure it out, or else Google (deliberately or otherwise) take web standards down an unexpected path requiring massive changes, also making life hard for the fork maintainers.
And don’t say “that’ll never happen”. Need I gesture broadly at the state of the world?
Strawman.
Your argument is that Chrome and Chromium are bad
The discussion being had is that Chrome != Chromium
My roof and my walls are not the same thing, but if demolish my walls, will my roof hover there magically?
I really don’t know what’s so difficult about this. It does’t matter what happens to the walls or roof, the fact remains that they’re not the same thing. I mean unless you take your roof off and make it a wall and vise versa, then yes!
Whatever. Chromium is not Chrome, at the moment, so the title is correct. What may happen in 2,5 or 10 years from now is largely irrelevant at this time.
Nobody is going to ditch their favourite browser (or any other tool) because of the rants of some random netizen/website.
