I assume they’re not that big into politics and just wanna appear moderate.
“I’m simple and don’t bother to look deeper into anything”
They believe in the social policies of the Democrats and the financial policies of conservatives?
I mean I would ask follow up questions but at face value that would be what they meant no?
The democrats are fiscally conservative. The GOP believes in budget unbalancing tax cuts and are fiscally liberal.
So the person who says what’s in the post title is probably just a centrist Democrat. Which explains why they’re getting so much hate here.
So you’re of the opinion that somehow by making five hundred austerity cuts saving two million dollars each the GOP will shave a trillion from the budget? Is Trump going to increase or decrease the deficit in your mind?
I’m not an econ major and I have no fucking clue what is gonna happen with king Cheeto and his goons. I assume any time a politician says they are gonna do something they are probably not going to do that. Maybe half of what they say is true if we are lucky.
I saw we kill em all and start over.
“I don’t hate you because you’re a POC, a woman, or queer. I hate you because you’re poor.”
“I’m a prick but I also like to smoke weed”
“i vote MAGA, but im too much of a wuss to admit it out loud.”
“I’m a liar, pretending to be a libertarian. Fund the police so they can shut down the protests for things I don’t like.”
A walking example of privilege
“I judge the parties on their rhetoric instead of their record.”
“Trump is going to pivot any day now!”
My friend who managed to be as right as it could even be in a political compass test which I thought was impossible, the man was a hyper capitalist
“You’ve been duped”. Because people like this never acknowledge the amount of corporate welfare going on in America, if you want to be fiscally conservative, stop paying for profit companies from government coffers. Don’t go after food stamps, that is just veiled prejudice
“I’m a dumb cunt”
I assume they vote liberal or are uncomfortable being seen as the hateful sack of shit they are.
If we’re talking America the parties align like this:
- Democrat: Socially moderate, fiscally conservative
- Republican: Socially regressive, fiscally liberal
Republican: Socially regressive, fiscally liberal
Are massive tax cuts really considered fiscally liberal? The vast majority of the deficits that Republicans cause are due to tax cuts choking government funding.
I mean yeah probably. I mean when I think of defining liberal economics I think of what would Adolphe Thiers say. So yeah I think he’d be okay with handouts to his rich friends. Enriching the bankers and fucking over the working class.
Conservativism, in all forms, is not a real ideology. It’s narcissism. A conservative will redefine conservative values based on their own identity.
So the “socially liberal, fiscally conservative” idiot is lying to themselves about who they are. They want fiscal policies that benefit themselves, and they don’t want to be labelled a bigot, but they are fine with bigots in office as long as they get the fiscal policies that benefit themselves.
Ask them what they mean by “fiscal conservative,” and they will probably vaguely gesture and say “lower taxes.” What they mean is “lower taxes for me.” Fiscal conservatives still want to spend government money on programs they like. They want boondoggles in their backyard, earmarks and pork barrel projects, and social safety nets as long as they are the recipient (Medicare, Social Security, Veteran benefits, etc.)
They want to frame it as responsible restraint. Pull funding from programs they don’t understand, like scientific research, or don’t like, like foreign aid (except of course if strong ties to their home country).
And when they say lower taxes, when pressed, they will describe how their property tax or income tax or capital gains tax or death tax is really bad “for the economy.” They want good schools and roads and infrastructure, but they want someone else to pay for it.
Calling themselves conservative gives them license to be as selfish as they want to be without having to admit that they don’t actually have any values.
The hatred of property tax really pisses me off.
I have a mortgage on the house in which I reside. I have to pay property tax on the house in which I reside. My annual property taxes are less than half the minimum monthly payment for my mortgage. If I can afford my monthly payment I can afford my taxes. If I can’t afford my monthly payment the taxes aren’t the problem.
And what do I actually get for that less than half a monthly mortgage payment in annual taxes?
- 2 large parks with miles of walking paths, a playground, a basketball and a soccer court, all maintained and within 2 blocks
- maintained roads to my house that are cleaned regularly
- decent schools nearby
Yes, I recognize I got lucky and am privileged enough to have, not just stable housing, but that which I “own,” but that just makes my distaste of the hatred of property taxes all the greater.
My problem with property tax is that (in the US) it creates a system by which areas with high property tax revenue (rich areas) recieive more money for schools. This is not bad on its face, but in the long term, it creates systems where poor neighborhoods have bad schools, can’t fund improvements, can’t attract good teachers, can’t attract residents, lose on tax revenue… and it cycles.
Hawaii has an interesting sysyem by which residents only pay tiny property taxes IF their primary residence is their only livable real estate.
“I don’t like being held responsible for the outcomes of the fiscal policies I fully support”
I prefer to use the term fiscally responsible.
It’s fiscally irresponsible to cut taxes for the billionaires and corporations when we have record deficits.
It’s fiscally irresponsible to cut the IRS budget when that results in less revenue.
Republican voters have been brainwashed into thinking that Republicans are somehow more responsible with the economy and budget, when history shows that Republicans drive up the deficit with irresponsible tax cuts.
It’s irresponsible to cut taxes and not cut spending.
Edit: spending more than yu take in creates debt and that is not responsible
Not related. It’s not a zero sum game. Spending on certain things can save money and allow for tax cuts, tax cuts can create business growth or income in other ways and allow more spending. Defering tax cuts to a certain time or spending to a certain time can lead to better results, ect ect ect.
Anyone who thinks it’s linked and must be Tax up=Spending up or Tax down=Spending down should probably not even be in charge of their own homes finances. Even children are taught how to save their allowance over time and then spend it, and I had occasion as a child to “borrow” my allowance to purchase a toy that was on sale.
Nothing about my statement is even slightly controversial from a finance or economic standpoint. If you know you are taking in less money from a tax cut then you should not spend more as you will increase your debt.
